Robert,
 
yes, 4.2.1 just says Proxies required to perform loop-detection SHOULD
create a branch value separable into two parts ,
 
it does not say only when proxy need fork the req , it will add the
second part.
 
So I don't see it means as sec 4.2.2,
 
   This second part
   will not be present if the message was not forked when that Via
   header field value was added.
 
Thanks
 
-Rockson

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From: Robert Sparks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:11 AM
To: Rockson Li (zhengyli)
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Sip] draft-ietf-sip-fork-loop-fix-07: is the second part
of branch of present when req forked?


What you are looking for is in this paragraph in 4.2.1: 

   Proxies required to perform loop-detection by RFC XXXX (RFC-Editor:
   replace XXXX with the RFC number of this document) have an additional
   constraint on the value they place in the Via header field.  Such
   proxies SHOULD create a branch value separable into two parts in any
   implementation dependent way.  The first part MUST satisfy the
   constraints of Section 8.1.1.7.  The second part is used to perform
   loop detection and distinguish loops from spirals.



On Aug 17, 2008, at 8:22 AM, Rockson Li (zhengyli) wrote:


        Hi folks,
         
        One question on draft-ietf-sip-fork-loop-fix-07,
         
        sec 4.2.2
         
        This second part
           will not be present if the message was not forked when that
Via
           header field value was added.
         
        I am not sure why?
        from sec 4.2.1, I  do NOT see there's any constraints that the
second party would be added only when the msg is forked.
         
        thanks
         
        Regards,
        -Rockson
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