Thanks for reply Brian. Probably we'll go for the SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY option. We'd rather keep cell ids inside our network, but anyway it's not really possible (see Google's My Location). So far we won't have any 3rd parties connected to IMS though.
Do you know if there is any standard to include a cell-id into PIDF-LO? Bartek -----Original Message----- From: Brian Rosen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:24 PM To: Bartłomiej Kołakowski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: RE: draft-ietf-sip-location-conveyance - Question about potential usage of the Geolocation header You can use the "HELD" protocol, rather than a SIP SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY for the dereference, if that makes it seem simpler to you. SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY is quite simple, and most devices and services implement it for other reasons. We have discussed using cell-id as a representation mechanism, but have been told, many times, that operators will not divulge location of cell ids beyond the immediate network, which makes this form of location entirely unsuitable for the range of applications we envisioned. If you have different information, please share it. On the other hand, even if we did allow cell id as a form of location, it would be inside a PIDF-LO, and thus would need to be in a body. I don't think putting actual location in the header is a good idea, as it cannot be protected against inadvertent disclosure. That would be a problem in the IETF. Brian ________________________________________ From: Bartłomiej Kołakowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: draft-ietf-sip-location-conveyance - Question about potential usage of the Geolocation header Hello, I have got such concern regarding location conveyance in SIP messages: I am designing IMS Appilcation Server, acting as a proxy, that would query network elements for location information. As you wrote proxies cannot insert message body, so the only way is to provide location by reference. This requires appling SUBSCRIBE-NOTIFY mechanism, which makes the architecture of the solution quit complex. In order to make it simpler I thought about including location information as locationValue inside the Geolocation header. In fact we do not need location represented with coordinates, but with cell-id (that's mobile network). PIDF-LO does not support it, but maybe inside a header that would be possible? There would be also an issue in indicating loaction target whose location is included (we plan to include both A and B parties location). Geolocation header would look like this: Geolocation: {cell-id-3gpp} ;location-target="[EMAIL PROTECTED]";inserted-by="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" What do you think about souch a usage of Geolocation header, maybe you could give us some other solution? Thank you in advance, Bartłomiej Kołakowski Service Solutions Architect Service Development Support Department Polkomtel S.A tel. 601131509 _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for questions on current sip Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for new developments on the application of sip
