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At Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:30:57 -0700,
> > This framing is also going to be used with TLS, so you do need<br>
> >  the length there. I'd rather have a consistent framing than<br>
> > save 3 bytes.<br>
> 

> My thought section 5.2.2 is for unreliable link (UDP/DTLS) only.

Editorial error. It was our intent that everything be framed.


> I
> assume the TLS record layer is sufficient for TCP.

TLS does not preserve write boundaries.


> Even if framing
> is used for TCP, wouldn't it be using rfc4571 as suggested by
> draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-tcp-07? Please clarify.

No, that's at the wrong layer--below TLS rather than above.

-Ekr

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