Ian,

This is an interesting question. I need to think about it some more, but
I don't like the "none" idea as it really must be up to the entity that
added the Privacy header to the request, as to whether it wants the HI
entries that it adds to go outside a domain. My initial thought is that
we can't overrule the overall Privacy header. The thing is that the
Privacy header doesn't preclude gathering the information and using
within a domain AND if it were to not include an hi-entry when the
request leaves the domain for which the proxy is responsible, the
recipient can add the hi-entry for the current request-uri before it
adds the new hi-entry.  

Your PSTN example doesn't strictly map obviously to a SIP model and I
would think you might consider the PSTN hop to be within the same domain
for which the proxy (or gw, I guess) is responsible OR consider this a
walled garden whereby the Privacy header doesn't apply. Which brings me
to a more general question as to how you all deal with other headers
when you do your mapping to the PSTN when there is a Privacy header?  It
would seem this problem isn't unique to History-Info, although I know
little about the details of PSTN I/W.

Regards,
Mary. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Elz [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:54 AM
To: Barnes, Mary (RICH2:AR00); Audet, Francois (SC100:3055)
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Subject: RE: I-D Action:draft-barnes-sip-rfc4244bis-00.txt 

Mary, Francois,

Section 4.1 of the draft allows for the addition of the Privacy header
parameter with a value of "history" to be included with the
hi-targeted-to-uri.

Can this be extended to also allow the value "none".

A node adding a H-I entry is allowed to specify the privacy value
"history" either in the Privacy header or as a header parameter
associated with the hi-targeted-to-uri. If the former action is taken by
one node this results in privacy for all history info header entries
even if this is not required. There is no way for privacy of an
individual H-I entry to be set to none if no Privacy is required for the
uri.

This creates a specific problem when interworking with the PSTN where
the privacy is associated with each E.164 number included in the
protocol. If an INVITE is being mapped to ISUP and the H-I entries are
being used to map to redirection numbers then a single Privacy header
with the value "history" will result in all numbers being restricted.

If the Privacy header parameter could include the value "none" then this
would explicitly indicate that the associated uri was allowed to be
presented.

The ability to explicitly allow presentation of specific H-I entries may
also be useful in pure sip implementations.

I don't believe that this change would create any backward compatibility
issues. The existing implementations will continue as deployed but new
implementations could explicitly set no privacy for a specific uri.

There are no security issues other than those already defined in the
draft that an intervening node could modify an existing H-I entry. The
Privacy header value of "none" should only be included by the node in
the same manner as the existing inclusion of the "history" value.

Ian Elz


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.

        Title           : An Extension to the Session Initiation
Protocol (SIP) for Request History Information
        Author(s)       : M. Barnes, F. Audet
        Filename        : draft-barnes-sip-rfc4244bis-00.txt
        Pages           : 49
        Date            : 2009-03-04

This document defines a standard mechanism for capturing the history
information associated with a Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) request.
This capability enables many enhanced services by providing the
information as to how and why a call arrives at a specific application
or user.  This document defines a new optional SIP header, History-Info,
for capturing the history information in requests.

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http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-barnes-sip-rfc4244bis-00.txt

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