On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 17:44 -0400, Joe Attardi wrote:
> Andy Spitzer wrote:
> > Because, as you rightly mention, the correct phrase is "kick out", not 
> > "kick".
> > The former does not hurt physically as much as the latter.  Evict is a 
> > single
> > word that means "kick out".  So I would like to see either "kick out" OR 
> > "evict"
> > but NOT "kick".
> I disagree - "kick" alone is used to mean the same thing in some contexts.
> 
> I hate to use IRC as an example, but an op would /kick someone and the 
> message would be "foobar was kicked from #sipx".
> 
> Also in pretty much any multiplayer game, if you misbehave (use foul 
> language, teamkill, etc.), you get a message that you have been "kicked 
> from the server"

I think that if someone wants to produce a language pack for IRC geeks
or gamers, that would be an appropriate place to use 'kick'.  I'm sure
that such a language pack would be very colorful (and that I'd
understand all of it), but I agree with Woof that the standard version
should use less colloquial terminology.  I like 'Remove'.

I also prefer 'Exclude/Include'.  I think Joe's point about 'Isolate'
not being accurate is well taken, but I think that the fix is to make
the operation really to exclude them - both as a speaker and as a
listener.  It doesn't make sense to have some be heard but they cannot
hear.


> I'm obviously being a bit facetious with that last one, but the point
> is 
> - is it more important to be dictionary-correct or concise and easy
> to 
> understand?

It's most important that we project the image of a
professionally-produced product.  The people who select phone systems
are still _mostly_ not clued in to open source or the culture it comes
from; we don't want to alienate them any more than we need to with lingo
they don't use themselves.


-- 
Scott Lawrence  tel:+1.781.229.0533;ext=162 or sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  sipXecs project coordinator - SIPfoundry http://www.sipfoundry.org/sipXecs
  CTO, Voice Solutions   - Bluesocket Inc. http://www.bluesocket.com/ 
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