The issue as Martin points out is that the user doesn't know any better.
I could see a large system where a user may not know the direct user
"extension" but knows the DID. 

If it can be addressed it would be smart.

Al


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M.
Ranganathan
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:21 PM
To: Martin Steinmann
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [sipX-dev] Hairpinned calls ( originating from the pbx
backto the pbx )

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Martin Steinmann
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Scott Lawrence wrote:
>>>
>>> So there are two phones on the system 201 and 202, but 202 also has 
>>> a PSTN DID 555-1202, and 201 calls that DID number so that the call 
>>> goes out via the ITSP and comes back in?
>>...
>>> The real answer to such a thing is to have a rule that prevents the
>>call from looping out in the first place.
>>
>>On our sipXecs trial system we minimize the chance of such scenarios 
>>by using user aliases that are equal to the person's DIDs with dialing

>>prefix. This ensures that the calls made using your colleague's DID 
>>are never sent to PSTN and are terminated locally.
>>In the example above if the PSTN prefix is 9 then: 202 has alias 
>>5551202 for the purposes of receiving incoming calls and it also has 
>>alias
>>95551202 for the purposes of resolving outgoing calls locally.
>>
>>It does not solve the problem entirely since one can still end up with

>>a call between 201 and 202 via ITSP due to call forwarding or far end 
>>transfer.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Mark.
>
>
> How can this be made intuitive to an ordinary user / admin?  It seems 
> to me that even if there is a fix using smart aliases it does not 
> solve a users problem unless is is made easy to use and intuitive to 
> configure. How can this be accomplished?
> --martin
>

AT&T conformance testing requires this case to work anyway and hence I
have no choice but to address it. Adds a few states to the B2BUA state
machine but its within reach.

Ranga



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