wrong post. sorry and ignore.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Tony Graziano <[email protected]
> wrote:

> not that it matters...
>
> We have a site with a need for a flexible attendant to be able to forward
> their calls off site. There is no set schedule for this, because they have
> someone in at various times at night and weekends to handle calls without
> forwarding them.
>
> We use the polycom forward button, but have a phanton user (user with no
> phone and a permanent call forward) that they forward to as needed. This
> method has never posed any permissions based issues, however, it is not
> nearly as flexible as the userui.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Robert Joly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > >Openfire portal is currently available mainly for ease-of-development
>> > and testing but will be shut down come >the stable release.
>> >
>> > It would be nice if it could be "re-activated" by a power
>> > admin for access to some features that might not be available
>> > via SipX... for per user federation for example...
>>
>> The danger here is that in our current integration model, sipXonfig is
>> the master for all configuration.  It is through it that IM users,
>> Multi-user chatrooms and IM groups can be provisioned.  Having the
>> sipXconfig as the master makes it very easy to tie the openfire config
>> into our existing backup and restore scheme and concentrates all the
>> system's config information in one place which makes thing generally
>> simpler.  If we were to allow a backdoor (such as the openfire web
>> portal) through which openfire config can be modified without
>> sipXconfig's knowledge, sipXconfig would no longer be the complete
>> master of the configuration and its view of the current openfire
>> configuration would only be partial.  This creates backup & restore
>> issues, loss of config data and opens the door for invalid
>> configurations.
>>
>> On top of that, it is our understanding that there are licensing
>> implications surrounding the bundling of the openfire web portal into
>> other products like sipXecs.  The main contention point is around the
>> copyrighted openfire logo I believe.
>>
>> Over time, we will extend the amount of openfire settings that are
>> accessible via sipXconfig to address the users needs.  For our first
>> release we picked a modest subset that still delivered a lot of
>> functionality.
>>
>> >
>> > >We are questioning the 'per user' part right now.  This is currently
>> > achieved via the Kraken plug-in but it >has some pretty ugly
>> > bugs and is not well maintained.  That functionality may end
>> > up being pulled out before >4.2 is released.  I would like to
>> > understand what aspects of that feature make it compelling for you.
>> >
>> > By per user I mean that we would like to be able to control
>> > federation ourselves, not give the user direct access. We
>> > don't want most users to be able to do it. Internal IM for
>> > most users or with selected extranet partners etc.
>> >
>> > Openfire was seen as a solution prior to it even being
>> > announced as being integrated with SipX. For me, I would be
>> > love to see a plug in that integrated user setup etc, but
>> > allowed the full use of Openfire.
>> > Probably a bit much, but I can always hope... :)
>> >
>> > Bottom line is we want internal IM, with the for some
>> > selected users to be able to federate with public services.
>>
>> I get it.  The 'per-user federation' in openfire is delivered by an open
>> source plug-in called Kraken but unfortunately, this plug-in has a
>> number of fairly major bugs and is not well maintained.  You may find
>> that your users will not be satisfied with its performance and
>> reliability...
>>
>>
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Tony Graziano, Manager
Telephone: 434.984.8430
Fax: 434.984.8431

Email: [email protected]

LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
Telephone: 434.984.8426
Fax: 434.984.8427

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Why do mathematicians always confuse Halloween and Christmas?
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