On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:03 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Simple Scenario:
>
>                   SIP
>  CS1000 ------------------SIPX
>   |   |                                |
> setA setB                          setX
>
> - setA and setB are connected to CS1000 and setX is connected to SIPX.
>
> Actions:
> ---------
> 1. setA calls setB.
> 2. setA initiates a No Hold Conference to setX.
>
> This problematic scenario can also be simulated using SIPp tool (without
> CS1000 and without NHC scenario). Construct a simulated INVITE without
> SDP using "SIPp tool" and send it across to SIPX, you might be able to
> observe the results yourself.
>


1. Please do not top post. Bottoms up, hence bottom post  is a good maxim.

2. I have already responded to your question. SipXbridge will return
400 ( if it returns 500 that is a bug and I would appreciate your
filing a bug report with a trace).  I think you mean sipxbridge in the
middle unless you are directly connecting to the sipx proxy server.
Please clarify.

Regards,

Ranga

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JOLY, ROBERT (ROBERT) [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:15 PM
> To: Bharath Ramalingam (WT01 - Telecom Equipment);
> [email protected]
> Subject: RE: SLOW START on SIPX
>
>> Thanks Joly for your response.
>>
>> As mentioned earlier, it's a "No Hold Conference" (NHC) scenario from
>> CS1000 to endpoint connected to SIPX i.e.
>> without putting the present call on hold, conference will initiate. In
>
>> such case, CS1000 would send out INVITE message without SDP
>> information and when far end responds with the '200 OK', the SDP
>> information would be sent in 'ACK' message.
>> But when the far end is SIPX, it rejects the INVITE without SDP with
>> "500 internal Server Error".
>
> What do you mean by 'the far end is SIPX'.  You were just explaining
> that the scenario is between CS1K to an endpoint connected to sipXecs.
> Please describe failing scenario - that would be one where the far-end
> is a component of sipX, not CS1K or a phone connected to sipX.
>
>
>> Our understanding it
>> that this problem happens due to lack of 'slow start' or late media
>> support on SIPX.
>>
>> I am not sure if we are missing any configuration for 'slow start' to
>> be supported on SIPX.
>>
>> If not without CS1000, this issue can be reproduced by the standard
>> "SIPp tool" to generate INVITE without SDP to SIPX.
>> We tried using SIPp as well and received "500 Internal Server Error"
>> from SIPX, after which we understood that this problem could be due to
>
>> lack of 'slow start'
>> implementation on SIPX. Please see if the attached traces help you to
>> identify the cause for the problem.
>>
>> Thanks for your time.
>>
>> Regards
>> Bharath
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: JOLY, ROBERT (ROBERT) [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 6:33 PM
>> To: Bharath Ramalingam (WT01 - Telecom Equipment);
>> [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: SLOW START on SIPX
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > We have few doubts regarding Slow Start (or late media) support on
>> > SIPX for which we need your views.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > As per observation, SIPX does not support SLOW START i.e. if it
>> > receives INVITE message without SDP in the first request, it would
>> > reject with "500 Server Internal Error". There are few
>> Avaya's CS1000
>> > scenarios such as "No Hold Conference", "MobileX Hand off" and
>> > "MobileX RGA support" in which CS1000 would send out INVITE message
>> > without SDP (Slow Start case, where SDP would present in
>> the 'ACK' to
>> > '200 OK' from far
>> > end) and this is rejected by SIPX.
>>
>> The sipX SIP routing core does not care about "slow start" or "fast
>> start".  If you see 500 Server Internal Error, it must be generated by
>
>> the UAS that is the target of the call.
>> Please be a lot more specific about the failing scenario so that we
>> can identify the endpoints in play.
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > This scenario is also tested generically by sending out
>> INVITE without
>> > SDP using "Sip tool" and SIPX rejected it with "500 Internal Server
>> > Error".
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Can you please confirm if SIPX does not support Slow Start
>> scenarios?
>> > As per initial investigations, we understand that this
>> would require
>> > considerable changes to be done on SIPX end to support Slow Start.
>> > Please provide your views and if there is any reason behind lack of
>> > Slow Start support on SIPX.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot for your time.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Bharath
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