I brought this up a couple times in the past.  Not only is codec support
important but also the ability to limit a certain number of concurrent
calls across a particular WAN link.

Certainly the addition of the locations concept was a step in the right
direction.  This enables the administrator to have the dial plan be
different for location A vs. location B.  With this type of scenario and
gateways at each location, voice traffic (except for AA and VM) can be
contained within a site minimizing WAN link usage.  This of course gets
thrown out of the window a bit if you are trying to use centralized
trunks.

Mike

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Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:34 AM
To: Keith Gearty
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] CODEC scenario

I have to agree with Keith about the importance of such a feature  
regardless of how it's implemented.  As an integrator I simply need  
this tool at my disposal.

On Aug 10, 2009, at 3:51 AM, Keith Gearty wrote:

> Todd Hodgen wrote:
>
> Dale Worley wrote:
>
>> A particular problem is that in order to enforce a
>> bandwidth restriction, the SDP editing must remove any codecs that  
>> the
>> filter does not understand.  This automatically interferes with
>> endpoints introducing new codecs.
>>
>>
> Wrong. We're talking about an *ex*clusion list, not an *in*clusion
> list.  The reality of how such a feature would be used is that the  
> admin
> knows what codecs his phones support.  He sets up the high bandwidth
> codec as first choice in all the phones, then 'blocks' that codec for
> comms going through the low-bandwidth link.
>
>
> Dale Worley wrote:
>
>> Here is an alternative approach that would be much more robust,  
>> although
>> I don't know if anyone is implementing it:  Have the border router
>> throttle the bandwidth consumed by each individual IP endpoint.  (I'm
>> sure that there are routers that can do this.)  Then have endpoints
>> negotiate a set of codecs with differing bandwidths, and  
>> automatically
>> switch to a codec with a lower bandwidth if it detects RTP packet  
>> loss.
>> As far as I can see, this is within all existing protocol specs and
>> since it's negotiated end-to-end, it takes into account all sources  
>> of
>> network constriction.
>>
>>
>>
> Now that's an interesting solution, although it probably won't work
> across a VPN connection, which is a serious concern.  Unfortunately,  
> the
> SIP Foundry cannot expect to dictate the development direction of VoIP
> phones.  Most phones are designed with Asterisk / Trixbox in mind, and
> they're not going to change their design just to accommodate SipXecs.
>
> My conclusion is that the ability to restrict codecs across a  
> particular
> low-bandwidth link is an essential feature, which several people on  
> the
> list have asked for within the last month.  For the implementer who
> requires such a feature, it is no doubt important enough to influence
> their decision as to which PBX they use, and since Asterisk and  
> Trixbox
> both inherently support such a feature this poses a problem for the  
> SIP
> Foundry.  Since it is technically possible to edit the SDP and produce
> the desired results, we should seriously consider doing it that  
> way.  It
> may not be "conceptually beautiful", but that isn't a good enough  
> reason
> to refuse such an important feature.  My view is that we should be
> looking to implement this feature in SipXecs ready for 4.2.0.
>
> Keith.
>
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