I will be glad to upgrade then, but I have to move forward with 
something now.

Picher, Michael wrote:
> Ah...  too bad 4.2 isn't further along...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Kitchin (public) [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 5:17 PM
> To: Picher, Michael; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Best practices for a branch office
>
> Thanks. I'm not too worried right now about the sites that are keeping
> their current pbx. Lucky for me, Verizon is covering the cost of the
> equipment and installation. My urgent need is how to set up a remote
> sipx setup at a branch office. 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Picher, Michael" <[email protected]>
> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:36:41 
> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: [sipx-users] Best practices for a branch office
>
> Hi Matthew,
>
> I'd use some Patton SmartNode 4118's out at the remotes with either 8
> fxs or 4 fxs / 4 fxos.
>
> Either that or the SmartNode 4520 series has dual Ethernet interfaces
> allowing for one on your MPLS network and one on your internal network
> (firewalling in box).  This may get you around some NAT hassles at
> certain sites.
>
> That's all you really need for your initial goal of getting the old
> PBX's some SIP traffic.  Then as you get familiar with the SmartNodes
> you could get into some fancy call routing and do some least cost
> routing between your offices by tying the SmartNodes back to your
> sipXecs server.
>
> Another approach might be to use some analog line cards in the Cisco
> Routers (if they have slots available).  You can hand SIP off to the
> router and have the router connect to your PBX with some analog station
> lines.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 4:14 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [sipx-users] Best practices for a branch office
>
> I'm having to put the cart before (if not at least next to) the horse on
>
> this, but I guess that is the way it goes sometimes. I have a 4.0.4 ISO 
> built system that is supposed to be fully functional tomorrow if Verizon
>
> can do their part by actually turning on our SIP service. I will be able
>
> to migrate users to it at my own pace over about 3 months. After that, 
> it should have about 150 handsets. It is currently running on VMWare 
> ESXi/VSphere 4.0 update 1. I intended on migrating it to a physical box 
> before it really gets used because of the issues reported when running 
> sipx on VMWare. My corporate office is in Nashville, TN. We have 110 
> remote facilities all over the country. They are each connected to our 
> office by an MPLS T1with Cisco routers. They have a variety of phone 
> systems. They all use POTS lines (usually 4 to 6) and have 12 to 14 
> handsets. My boss had already been sold on the fact these were 
> converting to SIP from verizon before I even entered the discussion. 
> They plan to put a device of some sort that will convert SIP to analog 
> lines and leave all the phone systems untouched. The plan was deploy 
> sipx at the corporate office, convert the remote facilities to VOIP 
> without touching their phone systems, and then investigate how to handle
>
> new remote offices or ones that outgrew their existing phone system. Now
>
> things just got thrown out of order. The building owner at one of our 
> facilities in Portland, OR wants us off their phone system now. I have a
>
> month or so to get it done, but I need to figure out what the best way 
> to do it it. The remote offices can get directly to Verizon's cloud 
> without going through our Nashville office. We definitely want to do 
> that. We also want to keep our IT infrastructure as centralized as 
> possible. There are no IT personnel at the remote facilities. We do have
>
> a relatively powerful and very under tasked Dell Poweredge or HP 
> Proliant at each facility. It would be no more than a couple of years 
> old, memory is not a problem, SCSI drives, hardware raid with cache, 
> hardware remote access card, etc. They are running Windows 2003 server 
> 32 bit. A few are running 2008 64 bit. If at all possible, I would like 
> to use this server to accomplish whatever is needed remotely. It just 
> seems like a waste to have that sitting there and not use it for sipx 
> component if I can. After looking here:
> http://sipx-wiki.calivia.com/index.php/SipX_on_Different_Platforms
> I'm unclear on exactly what it could or couldn't do in Windows. If it 
> can't run on Windows, I would be willing to load the free version of 
> VMWare ESX on top of Windows if that was an option. I know about the 
> potential issues with VMWare, but this is such a light load, and I 
> haven't had any problems at my office under a similar load. If the 
> experts on here are adamant that neither of those options are a good 
> idea, I will certainly then look into something else. The next piece I 
> think I need some good advice on is what components to put locally and 
> the facility and what to run at the corporate office. If the MPLS 
> circuit goes down, we expect the facility to be dead as far as the phone
>
> system. Not the best idea in my opinion,but that is what I'm being told 
> to do at the moment. There will likely be one POTS line with an 
> emergency analog handset on it. The other issue is network latency. 
> Oregon is our worst area with that issue. We get about 71 ms ping times 
> from our corporate office in Nashville to a Oregon clinic. I wish I 
> didn't have to start here, but oh well. The speeds don't drop when it is
>
> heavily used and we will prioritize what ever traffic is needed. We have
>
> one app that does horrible with latency and it definitely shows up in 
> our most remote facilities. I'm assuming this would be the factor that 
> would dictate where we stored voice mail. I want everything to be as 
> central as possible, but also perform as well as possible. We don't use 
> any advanced features at all in our remote facilities.
> Sorry for the long winded email. Any tips or ideas would be greatly 
> appreciated!
> Thanks,
> Matthew
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