I think the bottom line is it can't hurt to see what the difference might be. 
I've only ever used the ISO installs and like I said, nothing special about my 
installs. I'm fully updated and the last update I saw was a couple days ago, 
sipregistrar, haven't updated since.

I guess I'll know shortly. I should be able to backup then restore onto the new 
system right.


On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 13:05:43 -0700, Todd Hodgen wrote:
> All of my installation are based on ISO.  All.  I've never seen these issues
> 
> you are seeing.  Although that might help your situation, it seems it is
> because it is replacing something that is broken with a new known working
> component.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 1:47 PM
> To: sipx-users
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Random Dropped Registrations
> 
>> 1) Set your logging level to INFO (or DEBUG if you like that better).
>> 
> That's where they are at.
> 
>> 2) Wait for the problem to be manifest, that is, a phone is first seen
>> and then later not seen on the Active Registrations screen without any
>> explanation.
>> 
> We've done this.
> 
>> 3) Take a snapshot using the Diagnostics -> Snapshot screen.  Request
>> the time period to be covered by the captured logs to be the present
>> back to about 3 hours ago.  That should be enough time to capture the
>> genesis of the problem.
>> 
> I have snapshots from when this happens.
> 
>> 6) Do "merge-logs --ft=[extension] --include-method=register", where
>> [extension] is the extension of the phone in question.  This extracts
>> the REGISTER requests and their responses which have From or To fields
>> containing [extension].
>> 
> The tools which were suggested to me are both where I'm stuck at this time.
> The merge-logs command and the regtimes command don't exit on the ISO so
> I've gotten sidetracked in resolving those issues. This has lead to other
> problems while the problem continues. There is nothing special about my
> install, nothing modified, it's just a standard ISO install with my name/IP.
> 
> 
> At this point, I need to move on. Someone suggested that I give an RPM
> install a try, which might be closer to what most on the list are using and
> so I am in the process of doing this. I badly need to get the phones working
> because calls are going missed. I'm hoping this install will fix the
> problem. Then I can get back to this machine to find out what the heck has
> been going on.
> 
> Does that sound reasonable?
> 
> 
>> 7) Do "sipviewer merged.xml &" to run sipviewer and display the
>> filtered log information.
>> 
>> 8) Stare at the sipviewer screen to see what's going wrong.  What you
>> should see is REGISTER requests going from the phone to the proxy to
>> the registrar, and responses going back.  The requests will come in
>> pairs, the first one gets a 401/407 response, the second gets a 200
>> response.  Then there will be a gap of several minutes, then the next
>> pair, etc.  With the default settings, the times at the left are in
>> local time, so you should look around the time when the phone was
>> unexpectedly not registered.  (You can change the times to UTC from
>> the pulldown menus.)  Each 200 response contains a header "Expires:
>> [number]", where [number] is the number of seconds into the fiture
>> that the registration has been extended until.  The next successful
>> REGISTER should complete within that number of seconds of each successful
> REGISTER.
> 
>> Admittedly, one of these steps might fail.  If so, please copy down
>> the details of the failure, and we will (have to) solve that problem
> first.
>> (See http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yak+shaving)
>> 
>> Dale


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