(but I don't think it is a "vmware" specific thing, in general, it a virtual
server "thing")

Media suffers from latency, and if the media is being played from a virtual
server with a latency issue (perhaps due to timing) "yucky stuff happens".

What he is saying is the media is anchored but being "bounced" so it is not
being encoded in any way.

I believe what he is saying, though I am not sure anyone has tested it under
a real load to verify this does not have a detrimental effect. I would still
have a concern over "resources" in general in a virtual environment, but
thats me.

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Paul Scheepens <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Joegen,
>
> Just so that I (and the rest) understand it correctly:
>
> Do you mean that VMWare only gives problems if audio needs to be encoded
> (generated)/recoded(processed)?
> And as the SBC is only relaying the RTP stream it does not matter that the
> timers are not OK.
>
> Paul
>
> Joegen Baclor <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > sipXBridge will not be an issue with VM.  The only issue with VM and
> > Media Servers like Freeswitch in your case is the accuracy of the
> > timers used in a VM which will be directly have an affect on audio
> > sampling.   The media anchor is sipXrelay.  It does not process nor
> > generate any media and, thus, will not require multi-media timer
> > accuracy to perform its function.  Hope that clears things up a bit.
> >
> > Joegen
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, 23 September, 2010 04:12 PM, Mark Theis wrote:
> > This is my point. I am looking for the answer. For some reason it
> > feels like people make comments that do not actually inform me of
> > anything. SipXbridge is not helping me. But... What would be the
> > best alternative?
> >
> > Can someone please give the rest of us some pointers? I know that I
> > have read all the wiki and I am still lost. Failover and redundancy
> > is driving me crazy. Does redundant gateways (sip trunks) work?
> >
> > The wiki has just enough info to nake ne hungry. Any alternative links?
> >
> > Sorry to rant. Getting very fryustrated.
> >
> > -Mark
> > Mark D. Theis
> >
> > Southern California Telephone & Energy
> > 27515 Enterprise Circle West, Temecula Ca. 92590
> >
> > From: [email protected] <sipx-users-
> > [email protected]>
> > To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software <sipx-
> > [email protected]>
> > Cc: [email protected] <sipx-users-
> > [email protected]>
> > Sent: Thu Sep 23 00:48:16 2010
> > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] SIP Server Questions (Virtual vs Physical)
>
> > R-r-r-r-right, sipxbridge is a-a-a-a-nchoring the m-m-m--media...
>
> > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Paul Scheepens <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Just a question on the SBC's, as they are handling voice as well,
> > wouldn't there be a (possible) issue with VM.
> > TeTeTeTalking with the outside world should be PePePePerfect IMHoHO.
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
> >
> > From:
> >
> > Mark Theis <[email protected]>
> >
> > To:
> >
> > Discussion list for users of sipXecs software <
> [email protected]>
> >
> > Date:
> >
> > 23-09-2010 06:40
> >
> > Subject:
> >
> > Re: [sipx-users] SIP Server Questions (Virtual vs Physical)
> >
> > Sent by:
> >
> > [email protected]
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> > I like your plan.  I am not an expert (maybe because I have only
> > been working with this for a month or so) yet, but…. What were you
> > thinking to use as your SBC1 and SBC2?  Each of your other devices’
> > names hinted at (or explicitly said) sipXecs… but the SBC has me
> > wondering.  Are you thinking to have 2 separate ITSP Gateway (SBC)
> > sipXecs VM’s?
> >
> > As you might have noticed from my last post a couple minutes ago, I
> > want to do something very similar to yours… but… all of my users
> > will be external. And… I have my servers geo-diverse. This may be a
> > problem for me, but I could not find another solution  aside from
> > sipXecs that claimed the ability to solve my problems.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Mark Theis
> >
> > Southern California Telephone and Energy
> >
> > Office (951) 693-1880 Ext. 212
> > Fax (951) 693-1550
> > Cell (951) 545-1013  or (949) 682-VOIP
> >
> > 27515 Enterprise Circle West
> > Temecula, CA. 92590
> > [email protected]
> >
> > From: [email protected] 
> > [mailto:sipx-users-<sipx-users->
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Talbot, Peter
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:43 PM
> > To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> > Subject: [sipx-users] SIP Server Questions (Virtual vs Physical)
> >
> > Hi all.
> >
> > In further pursuing a ‘Production Rollout’ ready implementation of
> > sipXecs, I had some final questions, mostly in regards to what can
> > and cannot be Virtualized. Currently it is looking like anything
> > that actually handles voice traffic (whether recorded messages or
> > ongoing conversations) should remain physical due to timing
> > constraints, but other Roles can be Virtualized.
> >
> > What I am loosely looking at then, in a server layout fashion, would
> > be something along the lines of:
> >
> > SIPX1 – Physical Server (Internal network) - Management/Primary SIP
> Router
> > SIPX2 – Physical Server (Internal Network) - Redundant SIP Router
> > SBC1 – Virtual Server (DMZ) - Primary ITSP Gateway (SBC)
> > SBC2 – Virtual Server (DMZ) - Redundant ITSP Gateway (SBC)
> > SIPCN1 – Physical Server (Internal Network) - Conferencing
> > SIPWM1 – Physical Server (Internal Network) - Voicemail
> > SIPX3 – Virtual Server (Internal Network) - ACD/Instant Messaging
> >
> > Physical and Virtual Servers would all be 64bit, running a minimum
> > of 8GB of RAM, the VM1 machine having extra storage space, and all
> > with a good processors (well above the recommended listed in
> > Michael’s book) and GB Ethernet. Virtual Machines would have
> > slightly less power, but the Roles are slightly less power hungry
> > anyway. In this instance, Remote Workers would be connected via VPN
> > to our internal network, so Remote Worker traffic would act just
> > like ‘inside user’ traffic.
> >
> > Does the above seem like a plausible solution?
> >
> > As a secondary necessity – in regards to load testing – what tools
> > of those available (like WinSIP) would any of you recommend?
> >
> > Peter Talbot
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