Would you be able to do me a spec on what the softphone that would be the 
optimum would have to have in features ? I am talking to a partner company that 
makes such things and want to try t convince them to offer such an animal

Am 18.12.2010 um 00:12 schrieb Victor Williams:

> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Tony Graziano <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Victor Williams
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > List still isn't sending to my Yahoo address, so hopefully this one will
> > work...
> >
> > I have successfully gotten this working...to an extent, however, a few
> > things stand out that appear to be incorrect, and I don't know where to fix
> > them (I can't tell whether it's "feature functionality" or if it's an error
> > somewhere...in either Bria or SipXecs):
> >
> > 1.  Every time logging into Bria via the provisioning route, I keep getting
> > contacts showing up that I don't believe should.  In the group "Ungrouped
> > Contacts", I keep getting the same one added to that group every time I log
> > in.  So if contactA is there when I log off, contactA is there twice when I
> > log back in.  If I then log off, contactA is there three times when I got in
> > again.  Etc, etc.  It can be re-created 100% of the time.
> 
> Known bug, the last bria lab release fixes that. There is a JIRA on it.
> >
> > 2.  When Bria user A and Bria user B initially log in and add each other as
> > contacts, neither of them will get a permission request or appear as online
> > in each other's contacts unless the Jabber: field is filled in with
> > [email protected], and then hit 'Ok'.  Question for Counterpath
> > ultimately, and I will raise it with them, but shouldn't that field just
> > assume it's the same domain unless otherwise stated?
> 
> No, because the correct format should not assume one's own domain,
> since it can talk to many. Unless you are using the Spark client which
> known how to search and dig your own domain for contacts, you would
> have to enter it. Even Spark populates the <user>@<domain> when adding
> from their search function.
>  
> But each user has to do that each time they start Bria, for every single 
> contact whose presence they want to see, and who they want to IM with.  Bria 
> completely "forgets" the previous way you had it.
>  
> >
> > 3.  The "Work" contact group is automatically populated with contacts from
> > the SipXecs install, regardless if they are enabled for IM...even the
> > superadmin user is listed.  If I remove the group, then come back, it's
> > magically back again.  I don't want any users automatically populated.  The
> > ultimate goal is to pick users out of a directory (which one is unimportant
> > now), be able to add their softphone or sip address, and save it in Contacts
> > and have it be persistent across restarts.
> 
> This is correct if there is a group speeddial I believe.
>  
> I have removed the group speeddials and it still happens.  Just tested it.
>  
> >
> > 4.  To get presence and everything working correctly on each login, for each
> > user one has to edit each profile and then put [email protected] in the
> > Jabber field and re-check the box to see presence information for that
> > user.  Otherwise, you can't see presence information.  Why isn't this kept
> > across restarts of Bria?
> Your XMPP profile is not storing the contacts locally. It should be,
> as there is a known bug with storing via the webdav method.
>  
> I've got Bria set to store contacts locally.  Every time I change the way 
> Bria stores contacts, restart Bria and use the provisioning method, it goes 
> back to using Webdav.
>  
> >
> >
> > There are other nagging issues, but those are the 4 that are getting most on
> > my nerves right now, and I don't know where the problem truly resides.  For
> > what its worth, logging into Spark or Pidgin with no changes on the SipXecs
> > side just works.  Only looking at the Bria log file was I able to figure out
> > that it was sending u...@ipaddressofxmppserver instead of
> > [email protected].  That is the only reason I tried filling (and
> > re-filling) the Jabber: field with [email protected], and everything
> > magically started working.  However, those changes aren't kept across
> > restarts, and I have no idea why.
> >
> I think there is a HUGE number of comments on this, and some progress
> being made with Counterpath. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, but
> this is something they have been slowly fixing one issue at a time,
> like the whole VCARD cache stuff too.
> 
> I would encourage you to look in the tracker and see the outstanding
> issues, what's been done, and comment/assist as you feel prudent.
>  
> I'll do that.  Currently though, the product is pretty much unusable from my 
> perspective.  It would ultimately be for end-users, but I can't give 
> end-users something like this...there'd be a revolt.
>  
> Are there any other soft phones out there "rumored" to work well with 
> SipXecs?  Otherwise my alternative is keeping desk phones across the board 
> and having people use Spark...which I don't want to do.  I'd like everything 
> happening on the desktop, and consistent across every user in the org.
>  
> What happened to the softphone that was sold with SCS?  Who does that code 
> belong to now?
>  
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Also, you need to setup bria to communicate with sipxopenfire. It is better
> > to use the bria provisioning service in sipconfig to do this. You should
> > have a sip ONLY account and an IM account (both pointed to sipx). 2
> > accounts, not both services in one.
> > See the wiki on counterpath provisioning.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: sipx-users-boun...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <sipx-users-boun...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: sipx-us...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <sipx-us...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thu Dec 16 11:01:08 2010
> > Subject: [sipx-users] Clarification on IM (XMPP vs SIP)
> > I have the Bria 3 client working with our install of SipXecs, but I'm
> > confused on the instant messenger aspect.  If I just fire up Bria with a SIP
> > profile and check both the SIP and IM boxes, people can IM each other.  How
> > is that working?  Is that going through the SipXecs server, or is that a
> > straight peer-to-peer IM?  I don't see any log file containing conversation
> > history on the SipXecs server.
> > I also set up an XMPP profile in Bria 3, and that is working.  But again, I
> > don't understand the difference between the SIP IM vs the XMPP IM when it
> > just comes to simple instant messaging.  What is gained/lost by using one or
> > the other?
> > What I'm trying to accomplish:  I don't want users to send/receive files or
> > anything, I just want users to be able to IM each other and have the
> > conversation logged on the server.
> > Our install doesn't need any of the advanced functionality that Openfire or
> > any other solution offers.  At this time, we only want people to IM each
> > other and have the conversations logged.  What is the most straightforward
> > way to allow that to happen with the SipXecs install?
> >
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> Tony
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