On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Burleigh, Matt <
[email protected]> wrote:

> “When you use an SBC that does smart nat traversal methods (if they have
> sip alg or Stateful packet inspection on) or if they have a integrated
> device it might not leave the option to turn onn these functions, how useful
> will it be to you?”
>
>
>
> And that’s why I thought I would be only using Bria where I can provision
> “Firewall Traversal” method to be OFF (or Bria Iphone with firewall
> traversal options off) and let SipXbridge handle the NAT traversal issues.
>
It doesn't work that way.


> *So a smarter SBC, like OpenSBC, would support more NAT traversal
> scenarios?* If this is so, then I need to start learning a lot more about
> OpenSBC and SipX.
>
Not all SBC's are the same.

>
>
> My user base is pretty small, less than 10 would be globally roaming and
> need this type of connectivity.
>
And hence the need for a really smart SBC for remote user traversal, because
you will not have access to every firewall where they are.

>
>
> No site to site VPNs. Instead we’re simply using ITSPs to provide DID’s for
> our customers in other countries and so that it’s a “local” call for the
> customers.
>
You are assuming that the ITSP's are capable of talking to sipxbridge. This
is another VERY good reason to use an independent sbc.

>
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tony Graziano
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:13 PM
> *To:* Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>
> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] OpenSBC
>
>
>
> You might get more input if you start another thread.
>
>
>
> I've done this before. Trunks on other continents, site-to-site vpn's with
> analog gateways on other continents, remote users wherever.
>
>
>
> It's not a reflection on pfSense, but if you want to support remote
> "mobile" workers and/or a lot of remote users, you need a different SBC
> device than sipxbridge.
>
>
>
> Yes, it will work. Yes it will traverse NAT (to a point).
>
>
>
> What it wont do is traverse NAT in anything other than a basic way, which
> means you need to reconfigure the remote firewalls of just about every user,
> to get it to work for them. When you use an SBC that does smart nat
> traversal methods (if they have sip alg or Stateful packet inspection on) or
> if they have a integrated device it might not leave the option to turn onn
> these functions, how useful will it be to you?
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Burleigh, Matt <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> I am planning a Pfsense/SipX deployment with both roaming/global remote
> workers(Bria Pro/Bria Iphone) and ITSP (DID’s in other countries)
> connectivity.
>
>
>
> Sorry to hijack this thread, but I am not sure I understand the need for
> OpenSBC or any external SBC with SipX. SipXbridge already handles the NAT
> traversal issue and is an “SBC” of sorts. I guess I don’t if it’s a complete
> “SBC” implementation or not…
>
>
>
> Are there security issues for allowing “port forwared” connections directly
> to SipXbridge?
>
>
>
> I think  I’ve read a thread discussing using OpenSBC to modify the SIP
> messages and not sure why that is needed? Any examples?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Michael Picher
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:07 AM
> *To:* [email protected]; Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] OpenSBC
>
>
>
> two thumbs up for OpenSBC on pfSense!
>
> freeswitch is already available on pfSense, how hard can it be Joegen :-)
>
> i'm sure you're not busy doing anything else...  hahahaha...
>
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 5:16 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > If you feel that integration would do the sipX project any good,
> > feel free to voice out your opinion.
>
> I'm not high level enough in this to have any input on the topic. I don't
> know if that would or would not be a good idea in terms of 'integrating'.
> I personally like to see things in modular form, not all tied into one
> single bundle but tied together so that they work very well together, as
> individual, stand alone 'modules'.
>
> I loved using OpenSBC but was never able to resolve the glemlins we
> suffered. I still believe it was because of my lack of understanding Vyatta
> so had to move to pfsense. What I can tell you is how badly I would love to
> see OpenSBC on pfsense though :). Or, even as a safe, secure centos/firewall
> only setup.
>
> Mike
>
>
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