You can integrate Lync via gateways with PBX's etc. They do have a certification program. It would be good if SipX could have this, and that is what I'm going to attempt via our Audiocodes Mediant 1000. I did have this working (without presence) a few years ago when I last played with it. I also have some MP-1xx devices and a Patton SmartNode I can play with.
You can use voice with Lync in the cloud. There are vendors that give you a PSTN connection via a sip trunk etc. If you want to connect with on premese pbx, then you do need an on site Lync Server. We have that with the plan we are on. Also Lync 2013 will be out in October, but so far there are very few details about is new. I'm hoping the integration options are better. Lync now has iOS (both pad, and phone versions), Android etc clients. It has come along way in the last year. I believe MS realises that it needs to take a different road than Apple to keep clients. Lock in is not the way to go. Geoff Van Brunt From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:28 AM To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software Subject: Re: [sipx-users] FW: MS Lync and Exchange 2010 It is very clear to how microsoft markets Lync their aim is the same, for the enterprise and as the pbx via their other products. You can already qwasi integrate with other IM services via federation (meaning I can send an IM to my "alternate" IM account at my domain which is hosted elsewhere. I can do this because my sipx domain is its own subdomain. What has happened "yesterday' is that Google announce a cloud partner program (its vague now). In an Open Source world one would want to see if there was a way to have the Google IM presence obtain its status from another federated or linked account, via the cloud. Realize Lync is just IM and presence for most folks BUT it also has a built in softphone. It has to be running on premise to leverage voice. There is also a "phone edition" which means you have to use a MS approved ip phone. It has attendants and voice mail integration. So yes, it is a competing product. With their mobile client they have Symbian, Windows, Symbian, Blackberry apps. Notice what is missing? The almost #1 mobile phone? Realize also there are different O365 versions and they do not all have the same features. I do see some but not all integration as being feasible. There would have to be support in the guise of a web service (like REST) to be able to communicate this back and forth, and securely for IM status, but it would be cool. Until then, do any devs have any opinions on this: http://cloud.google.com/partners/ Whether or not the proper functionality is available yet, I do not know. I suspect it is not. It is almost a beginning though. On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Geoff Van Brunt <[email protected]> wrote: Couldn't agree more Tony. The cloud is the future, and SipX needs to support these services to keep relevant. Unified Communicaitons really means all your communications software/hardware working together. However it has only been that way if you use all MS\Cisco\etc pieces. If SipX were to bridge this, it would be the sole player able to do this making it very desirable. That would attract a lot of new business. There was some mention earlier that Lync was "competing technology". I don't really agree with that. The great thing about SipX was that you can use whatever hardware and software agents you want. You are not "locked in" to something. It would be great if that was carried over to services as well. Geoff Van Brunt From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 5:19 PM To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software Subject: Re: [sipx-users] FW: MS Lync and Exchange 2010 Certificates are perhaps a little more flexible in 4.6, but I know there were workarounds in 4.4 for people who wanted to use a cert from the AD server. I would have followed those threads. However, I do think one of the forward looking things to do with sipx would be to integrate to other cloud based platforms (whether it be O365, GoogleApps, Zimbra, etc.). Zimbra would perhaps be easiest, but it is also perhaps the least attractive in terms of its architecture (hp OM), becuase of storage and backup and "regular old maintenance routines). Google is least expensive and simpler for users, but there are limitations in the guise of "what" Google will allow you to do with their message stores, etc. I see it compelling to fix the address book portal to bring in the users google contacts and harness it for click to call, as simpler, cleaner, and less for the system (sipx) to store or sync, it can be pulled in live. If gtalk can be harnessed to mirror your sipx IM state, that goes a long way too. It would also be cool to see if there was a way to use a vmail destination as a google voice account for users. If these things can be done in O365 then super dee duper. I've seen where sipx came from "way back when", where it is now, and where it is going. The cloud is not the limit, its just the next layer. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Geoff Van Brunt <[email protected]> wrote: That is pretty much what I gathered. I'm a lurker on this list for quite a few years. It's going to take a couple of months for Office 365 to be put in place, so I'll explore this more when everything is ready to go. At the very least call forking so the desktop and Lync client ring at the same time should be possible. This would also make it work on mobile devices. I'll start a new thread on the dev list when I have the resources in place. Geoff Van Brunt From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:11 PM To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software Subject: Re: [sipx-users] FW: MS Lync and Exchange 2010 fyi - this has pretty much been discussed before, on-list and such a few times as I recall. Realize at the same time these are two "competing" products. How MS handles both their sip stack (which is tcp only I think) and how they handle authentication has changed several times (various ways in various SP levels of the "same" product). The better way to ensure interoperability would be to place a commercial SBC (which is known to work with Lync too) in bewteen. At least, I think that is the shortcut answer to get to the nirvana you might seek. Neither O365 nor Lync are exactly "open". Though I do understand why someone would want to do what you are attempting. Until someone has a working Lync server to test with against sipx AND provides details which will help either the devs or users craft a way to make them work (or determine it is still impractical), I'm not sure what can be accomplished. If there are issues with the certificate, it should be discussed. I think the users list is a great place to start that discussion and would look forward to it taking place. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:11 PM, John Lightfoot <[email protected]> wrote: Hey Geoff, I have an O365 E3 account I've tried to setup UM against. Haven't really looked at the Lync but I assume if you have the telephony on Sipx, you might be able to dispense with Lync on premises and keep it all in the cloud. As for the UM, I'm trying with 4.6 and have been unable to negotiate a TLS session (require for Exchange online). The client cert is requested from the Sipx but isn't being properly provided in the handshake. I suppose an issue needs to be created for it. In any event, I'd be happy to email or talk off-list and pass on what I've learned (including some fun with Microsoft TAC). My email should be publicly visible. 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