I would be less concerned with auto discovery (wasn't that dropped from
sipx already?) and more concerned with auto provisioning and firmware
management.

It is good to plug in the deice and have it grab a basic config from the
server so the admin can find the phone in unconfigured devices, assign a
line and send it profiles/reboot, etc. like we can with Polycom.

The "auto-discovery" term harkens back to the day when sipx actually could
scan network scopes looking for known mac address ranges. I think that was
neat but it was really problematic and it dropped off the development map
and was removed.

I am not sure if auto disocvery (the term) is used the same as I remember
it. sipx sees a known mac address range (like 0004f2) and says "polycom"
and makes it a manageable unprovisioned device. I think this is a good goal
for any UA if the vendors make it possible.

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Михаил Родионов <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Our current plugin does firmware management and provisioning, no
> auto-discovery yet.
>
> Yealink quality is very good right now - less than 1% units fail in first
> year.
>
> 2012/11/21 Matt White <[email protected]>
>
>> Have you guys done any work outside the plugin with
>> auto-discovery/provisioning?  That would be a killer feature that only the
>> polycoms have right now.
>>
>> About 2 years  ago (or has it been longer) we were working with yealink
>> and we too developed a plugin that worked fairly well and had just started
>> looking at the auto-provisioning plugin.  If I recall, back in the 4.2 days
>> it wasn't a huge change, the current provisioning model is hardcoded to
>> polycom mac address schemes, but could be updated with yealink mac's with
>> little effort.
>>
>>  At the time, I was very impressed with yealink support.  They would have
>> an engineer write custom firmware for feature xyz and email it to me the
>> next day.  But ultimately we decided to not purse it anymore because they
>> had QC issues with the hardware.   We had a sizable deployment of about 300
>> phones but about 25% would not grab dhcp.  Yealink discovered an issue with
>> the crystal used for timing and needed to go back to manufacturing.
>> Yealink provded the phone for free but it still left us weary until they
>> had matured.
>>
>> Maybe they have stabilized a bit these days.
>>
>> -M
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >>> Михаил Родионов<[email protected]> 11/20/12 7:06 PM >>>
>> Well, I woke up and found this thread... I think I just have to defend
>> Yealink here. We support installations with hundreds of them and they work
>> flowlessly. Yealink's SIP support is outstanding - they are a real
>> competitor to Polycom here.
>>
>> We have 4.6-compatible version of plugin for phones with upcoming v70 t2x
>> firmware in beta, will release it as RPM next week (we have 4.6
>> installation for 100 yealinks planned there so time frame is already set
>> for this release).
>>
>> So go for Yealinks and please address all questions and issues to me
>> directly - we have direct support from Yealink R&D so even custom firmware
>> is often no problem.
>>
>> 2012/11/21 Michael Picher <[email protected]>
>>
>>> I think it's in 4.7 now...  somebody will pipe up and let me know if I'm
>>> wrong.
>>>
>>> It was getting pushed and prodded in and out of 4.6.
>>>
>>> If we can get enough testing with it we might back-port it to 4.6.0
>>> update 1 or update 2.  Not sure how that's all going to develop yet.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Tony Graziano <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is vvx with firmware 4.x going to be on 4.6 or 4.7 initially or has it
>>>> made it that far yet?
>>>>  On Nov 20, 2012 3:35 PM, "Michael Picher" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think we'll get there with the others...  but they are still a
>>>>> compromise.  I think some firmware and template updates might be coming
>>>>> down post 4.6.0 for Yealink.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also know the Polycom vvx500 / ver 4.x firmware stuff should drop in
>>>>> mid to late December...  we'll want some testers on the 4.7 branch.  We'll
>>>>> probably be dog-fooding it once 4.6 drops too.
>>>>>
>>>>> There might be a couple other phones in the works too ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Geoff Musgrave <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Mike/Tony,****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the replies. I had a feeling that was going to be the kind
>>>>>> of response I got but wanted to check first. ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I completely agree that going with Polycoms would solve all of our
>>>>>> problems.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the info/insight.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geoff****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Tony Graziano [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 20, 2012 1:25 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] Yealink SIP-T26P/T28P + EXP38****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shoot thyself in the foot. Snom or Yealink, both are problematic. Get
>>>>>> thee to a Polycom...****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Geoff Musgrave <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone used the Yealink SIP-T26P or T28P with or without the
>>>>>> EXP38 with sipXecs  4.6? If so, I would like to hear your experience 
>>>>>> and/or
>>>>>> opinion.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m considering placing 2 of these with the EXP38 at another office
>>>>>> due to the owners not wanting to spend Polycom prices. My other option is
>>>>>> to go with snom 3xx with expansion modules again but I’m still having 
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> transferring issues with the current snom 370s at the office we did the
>>>>>> initial deployment.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geoff****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
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