Hi Bernard I noted preliminary functional problems with the e1000 driver for PDSMi's 82573 nics during initial linux system install from the standard FC4 ISO CD distribution. This e1000 was the one included with the initial FC4 kernel 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4smp, and only 1 of the 2 82573 nics was operating with this kernel.
After downloading the 2.6.17-1.2141_FC4smp kernel update, both 82573 nics appeared to function ok. And this continues with the latest FC4 kernel 2.6.17-1.2142_FC4smp. So it appears that the version of e1000 somewhere between 2.6.11-1.1369 and 2.6.17-1.2142 FC4 kernels is needed to at least begin to use both 82573 nics on a PDSMi box. I.e. I cannot say from my bracket of kernels (2.6.11-1 - 2.6.17-1) if the e1000 included with 2.6.16.5 will be adequate. Although I may go ahead with further testing using our small testbed of 3 PDSMi boxes, after hearing of Jeff's bad additional experiences with the PDSMi's 82573 nics, it is not certain that my group will want to proceed with a large cluster built from PDSMi boxes. I'd be glad to test a version of SystemImager that contains the lastest e1000 in its standard SI boot kernel on our PDSMi boxes. Is your latest SI signficantly different to set up and use compared to our current v3.2.0-4? Thanks, -bill > Hi Jeff: > > I'm not sure if the updated e1000 driver is included in the SystemImager = > kernel (it is 2.6.16.5 based), however if a patch is available I have no = > problems checking that into our repository. > > However, with UYOK, it is almost guranteed to work, as long as your OS = > supports it. While I have not tested UYOK with modules that are built = > by the user, I do not see any reason why it wouldn't work. > > It would be great if you guys could help us test the latest code before = > we release... > > Thanks, > > Bernard > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jeff = > Johnson > Sent: Wed 16/08/2006 09:07 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Sisuite-users] SuperMicro PDSMi i82573 support in si = > kernel > =20 > Bill, > > I have a great deal of *painful* experience with the PDSMi and=20 > systemimager. The problem you are experiencing is that the 82573V and=20 > 82573E (one of each on the PDSMi) require a very recent version of the=20 > e1000 driver that will not be present in systemimager's pxe kernel. You=20 > will need to regenerate a boot kernel that contains e1000 source around=20 > 7.0.41 or later (what I tested personally). > > Unfortunately getting over the pxe e1000 driver issue will only move = > > you forward to the next, and more significant problem. You will find=20 > that when running heavy mpi i/o the PDSMi will drop a large number of=20 > packets and this will occur on all machines participating in the mpi=20 > job. Running applications like Pallas (Intel IMB) or netpipe over as few = > > as 4 nodes you can drop as much as 12% of your receive packets. > > This issue was escalated up to senior engineering at Supermicro and=20 > Intel and was not resolved. It remains a mystery. We found two paths to=20 > resolution. Disabling the onboard 82573 nics in the PDSMi and installing = > > a PCIe 82572EI (Pro1000/T) card in each machine (requires a PCIe riser)=20 > or scrap the PDSMi nodes altogether and replacing with Asus RS120=20 > systems that are the same as the PDSMi except they use a Broadcom PCIe=20 > nic that does not suffer from the same ills. > > To pursue the path of adding the PCIe nic to the PDSMi nodes you=20 > will need: (per node) > Supermicro PCIe 1U riser (Supermicro P/N# CSE-RR1U-ELi) > Intel Pro1000/T PCIe gigabit card (Intel P/N# EXPI9300PT) > > To pursue replacing the PDSMi with Asus I have tested the Asus = > RS120-E3 > > If you are doing HPC work I would strongly suggest the Asus approach = > > because it just works out of the box. The Intel card is a workable=20 > solution but still requires a customized pxe kernel with updated e1000=20 > driver and lots of bios setting changes and motherboard jumper settings=20 > to make the added PCIe nic card eth0 and the primary pxe device. If you=20 > are only doing file/print, mail or web services and using systemimager=20 > to deploy then the PDSMi would likely suffice without modification. > > --Jeff > > Bill McKie wrote: > > Hi > > > > We've been happily & gratefully using systemimager (v3.2.0-4) for some = > time now > > to manage system installs & updates for several linux clusters. > > > > We're now adding new cluster boxes that are built using the SuperMicro = > PDSMi > > motherboard, which includes 2 Intel 82573 gigabit ethernet interfaces, = > an > > IDE/ATA hard disk, and Pentium-4 CPU. > > > > We prepared for autoinstalling with systemimager on these boxes in our = > usual way: > > > > o Custom configured a FC4 golden client on one of these PDSMi boxes. > > > > o Installed our usual set of client side sis RPMs on the golden = > client: > > > > rpm -Uvh \ > > perl-AppConfig-1.52-4.noarch.rpm \ > > systemconfigurator-2.0.9-1.noarch.rpm \ > > systemimager-common-3.2.0-4.noarch.rpm \ > > systemimager-client-3.2.0-4.noarch.rpm > > > > o Our systemimager image server (running FC4) has the following RPMs = > installed: > > > > perl-XML-Simple-1.08-1.noarch.rpm > > perl-AppConfig-1.52-4.noarch.rpm > > systemimager-i386boot-standard-3.2.0-4.noarch.rpm > > systemimager-common-3.2.0-4.noarch.rpm > > systemimager-server-3.2.0-4.noarch.rpm=20 > > systemconfigurator-2.0.9-1.noarch.rpm > > > > o Successfully tested golden client network communications through = > its > > 82573 interfaces with the image server, including dhcp IP = > assignment. > > > > o Successfully ran the usual prepareclient on the golden client > > > > o Successfully pulled the golden client's image to the image server > > using getimage. > > > > o Ensured that PXE network booting was set up on the image server > > under /tftpboot. [The imager server is also the dhcp server.] > > > > o Set up dhcp server entries for fixed-address IP assignment and PXE > > network autoinstalling for a fresh PDSMi box that does not yet have > > an OS installed. > > > > o Set up network booting through one of the 82573 interfaces in the > > BIOS of the fresh PDSMi box. > > > > o Ensured that the systemimager rsyncd server is running on the > > image server. > > > > o Booted the fresh PDSMi box. > > > > o Watched the dhcp server successfully assign the expected IP to the > > fresh PDSMi box. [I.e. PXE booting within the 82573 ethernet > > interface successfully communicates with the dhcp server.]=20 > > > > o Watched pxelinux successfully boot across the network. [I.e. > > the dhcp server is successfully handing off network booting > > to tftpd.] > > > > o Watched the systemimager kernel download and then take control of > > the client PDSMi box, successfully detecting the IDE/ATA disk. But > > it then stalled when it tried to configure the ethernet interface. > > Manually trying a few ifconfig commands from the breakout shell > > indicated that no eth0 or eth1 devices were known to the = > systemimager > > kernel. > > > > o Replaced the standard systemimager kernel under /tftpboot with > > Peter Mueller's kernel, repeated the client autoinstall boot, > > and again the ethernet interface was not detected. > > > > So it appears that I need a systemimager kernel that supports the > > intel 82573 ethernet interface and is compatible with systemimager > > v3.2.0-4. Does such a kernel exist, and if yes, where can I obtain > > it? > > > > [I've been reading about UYOK under newer systemimager version(s), > > but it is not yet clear to me whether or not this is available now > > in a stable version of systemimager. And since everything except the > > kernel is working fine with our current systemimager 3.2.0-4 setup, > > it would be desirable to not change anything except the autoinstall > > kernel if that is possible.]=20 > > > > Following is the output from the lspci command for the PDSMi box, > > showing the presence of the intel 82573 ethernet interfaces: > > > > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation E7230 Memory Controller Hub = > (rev 81) > > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation E7230 PCI Express Root Port (rev = > 81) > > 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express = > Port 1 (rev 01) > > 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GR/GH/GHM (ICH7 Family) PCI = > Express Port 5 (rev 01) > > 00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GR/GH/GHM (ICH7 Family) PCI = > Express Port 6 (rev 01) > > 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB = > UHCI #1 (rev 01) > > 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB = > UHCI #2 (rev 01) > > 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB = > UHCI #3 (rev 01) > > 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB = > UHCI #4 (rev 01) > > 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 = > EHCI Controller (rev 01) > > 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1) > > 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC = > Interface Bridge (rev 01) > > 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE = > Controller (rev 01) > > 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller = > (rev 01) > > 02:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6702PXH PCI Express-to-PCI = > Bridge A (rev 09) > > 02:00.1 PIC: Intel Corporation 6700/6702PXH I/OxAPIC Interrupt = > Controller A (rev 09) > > 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82573E Gigabit Ethernet = > Controller (Copper) (rev 03) > > 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet = > Controller > > 0a:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev = > 27) > > > > > > Thanks, > > Bill McKie > > NASA Ames Research Center > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > = > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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