In a nutshell I tried to negotiate with the officer as being equals to try and break though that Parent child relationship training. I informed him that I was trying to communicate with the peace officer, not the enforcement officer, but he was hell bent on being the enforcement officer so I effectively defended my honor by calling a black cat... black. His first communication with me was to trump a claim that I had been drinking without evidence (Screw probable cause, that is for enforcement officers) that is where he insulted me, when I told him "absolutely not a one" after he had asked how much I have been drinking, well his reply was " I don't like your answer, would you care to rephrase that and tell the truth? ", now he is calling me a liar so at that point he went on to ask me where I live and I told him " you have my license, reference that officer" I should have just said no comment officer at that time which is a small mistake of my own. Next he asked where I worked and then that is when I said no comment officer, that is about the time he ordered me out of the car. Asked him point blank " am I under arrest ", he said " no your just being detained for questioning " so here we are at the back of the car where he is questioning my behavior again. I explained to him that he first insulted me and then he called me a liar. He then went on to question whether I have been taking any drugs, I told him " not unless caffeine is a illegal substance behind the wheel, I drink soda to stay awake sometimes at work ", from that point on pretty much I stayed silent while he went into all his semantics and threats of taking me downtown for drug testing or he might decide to just call in a drug specialist now and going back an forth to his car several times, as bad as I wanted to tear into this guy because he was such an asshole I stayed silent because I had already got the names of the other officers who were standing there watching this too. Apparently another word he did not like was the word Officer, so I changed it up since he had called me "sir" at one point I started addressing him as "sir" so that it was in his own language then his attitude changed just a bit an just asked me to go sit in the car while he talked to the other officers. He made one last threat to call something in for a last attempt to get my goat an tear into him for more probable cause in his favor but I had not faltered for it an then he finally gave up, gave back my papers and said have a nice day.
If you get pulled over, the first thing I would ask is "Sir, how would you like to be addressed?" to let him know up front that you are attempting to communicate in peace to a peace officer. Blessing to your journey on the road. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Myk:Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > U.S. Title 49 holds all the statutes on Transportation: > > Commerce and Trade - 15 USC Section 44 > > Legal Research Home <http://law.onecle.com/> > US > Lawyer<http://law.onecle.com/uscode/>> Commerce > and Trade <http://law.onecle.com/uscode/15/index.html> > Commerce and > Trade - 15 USC Section 44 > > 01/03/05 > > *Sec. 44. Definitions > * > > > The words defined in this section shall have the following > meaning when found in this subchapter, to wit: > "Commerce" means commerce among the several States or with > foreign nations, or in any Territory of the United States or in the > > District of Columbia, or between any such Territory and another, or > between any such Territory and any State or foreign nation, or > between the District of Columbia and any State or Territory or > foreign nation. > > "Corporation" shall be deemed to include any company, trust, > so-called Massachusetts trust, or association, incorporated or > unincorporated, which is organized to carry on business for its own > > profit or that of its members, and has shares of capital or capital > stock or certificates of interest, and any company, trust, > so-called Massachusetts trust, or association, incorporated or > unincorporated, without shares of capital or capital stock or > > certificates of interest, except partnerships, which is organized > to carry on business for its own profit or that of its members. > "Documentary evidence" includes all documents, papers, > correspondence, books of account, and financial and corporate > > records. > *"Acts to regulate commerce" means subtitle IV of title 49 and the > Communications Act of 1934 [47 U.S.C. 151 et seq.] and all Acts > amendatory thereof and supplementary thereto.* > > "Antitrust Acts" means the Act entitled "An Act to protect trade > and commerce against unlawful restraints and monopolies", approved > July 2, 1890; also sections 73 to 76, inclusive, of an Act entitled > > "An Act to reduce taxation, to provide revenue for the Government, > and for other purposes", approved August 27, 1894; also the Act > entitled "An Act to amend sections 73 and 76 of the Act of August > > 27, 1894, entitled 'An Act to reduce taxation, to provide revenue > for the Government, and for other purposes' ", approved February > 12, 1913; and also the Act entitled "An Act to supplement existing > > laws against unlawful restraints and monopolies, and for other > purposes", approved October 15, 1914. > "Banks" means the types of banks and other financial institutions > referred to in section 57a(f)(2) of this title. > > AMENDMENTS > 2002 - Pub. L. 107-273 substituted "73 to 76" for "73 to 77" in > par. defining "Antitrust Acts". > 1991 - Pub. L. 102-242 added par. defining "Banks". > > 1938 - Act Mar. 21, 1938, amended section generally. > EFFECTIVE DATE OF 2002 AMENDMENT > Amendment by Pub. L. 107-273 effective Nov. 2, 2002, and > applicable only with respect to cases commenced on or after Nov. 2, > > 2002, see section 14103 of Pub. L. 107-273, set out as a note under > section 3 of this title. > > this is apparently a recent addition > > "Foreign law enforcement agency" means— > (1) any agency or judicial authority of a foreign government, including a > foreign state, a political subdivision of a foreign state, or a multinational > organization constituted by and comprised of foreign states, that is vested > with law enforcement or investigative authority in civil, criminal, or > administrative matters; and > (2) any multinational organization, to the extent that it is acting on behalf > of an entity described in paragraph (1). > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Myk:Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >> wooo weee, what a hassle this evening. >> Pulled over, 2 other officers called in and a supervisor. NO tickets, >> not taken to jail though. >> Seems they were bored and needed something to do. >> >> Watch the following video, it happened similarly this way: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJrQBwJpqk >> >> The only major differences was when he questioned my >> behavior I told him you just insulted me and called me >> a liar through the window, he try to get out of it though >> and say that he did not, but I dropped it after that. >> He tried to trap me several times by saying I was under >> the suspicion that I was drinking, I simply said "no comment >> officer". He had even threaten to take me downtown for >> a field cebriety test trying to get me to mess up and >> tear into him to give him probable cause. He could not >> get me to stumble about alcohol so he went to the >> drug thing.. "well if your not drinking you must be on >> a drug of some kind". >> A couple times when he was asking what particular >> drink or what drug I took I simply said I do not understand >> why you are detaining me, he kept saying I just explained >> it to you in which I stayed silent because he did not know it >> but I was saying I do not stay under your >> consent of questioning. >> Obviously the word "officer" was not working for this >> guy so I changed it up and started saying " sir ". >> After that he ask me to sit in the car in which I did >> after he explained that he needed to talk to the other >> officers. After that he said something about calling >> in some kind of drug specialist, got to the end of the >> car and turned around came back, handed back my >> ID, car registration and said have a nice day. >> The car was registered in my wife's name, he called >> but she was not available and he had to leave a VM, >> now I have his voice and his name. His attitude was >> completely different on the VM. >> >> Here is the full length video to watch: >> (what not to do first, then replaying what to do if stopped) >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJrQBwJpqk >> >> I urge especially you newbies to watch this and similar >> videos near it in the youtube videos over and over again, >> you can never be prepared enough.... they work! >> >> Talk to you again soon if more comes of it, >> >> Myk >> > > > > -- > "History repeats and life emulates" > by; Silver Dollar > -- "History repeats and life emulates" by; Silver Dollar
