Hal, I need to talk to you. Can I call you sometime today? Send me your
phone number again. It is about Money Order process someone is trying
to talk me into.
Thanks, Steve
hal wrote:
Well Cindy,
There is small need for me to deride what should be an obvious
situation here; I *know* it both */should /*/be /obvious /and that *it
is not*/! I am the kind of person who just doesn't much get along
because I have a great deal of deep feelings and I will not hide them.
This boils down to I say what is on my mind as is or naught! I know
folks -- as a rule -- dislike hell out of that because it makes them
*/think/* and I operate strictly in the 100% real world! Patrick did
not */LIKE/*/ /most of what I had to say so he told me in quite
certain terms that if I said things he didn't like he would shut me
out. Please understand it was BOTH what I said as well as HOW I SAID
IT! The issue was NOT about accuracy, depth of fact, pertinence to
socialistic burdens we bear, NOTHING like that but *only* as I have
stated. I had crossed opinions on directions of travel for the GROUP
SO-CALLED /PURPOSES /many times with Patrick. I tried his creame de la
creame MONEY ORDER which was so bannered and when it failed flat
because he had */entirely/* the wrong idea, I simply reported the
failure in detail and I made comment on group to the effect it was a
sorry concept and I was hurt by it. My FAILURE per se _never bothered
him_ but it bothered hell out of him that I so reported the truth!
When it came down to he being my editor-in-chief and censor or not I
just stopped my input. Some have gotten a few lines outside the group
but I am looking for success, not accolades or leadership roles. I
have been there and done that coasting! The Ralph character had the
same reactions on his primary RM show and tossed me out when I
confronted his religion head on using his head as a contact point!
Same deal! With him it’s my show or no show! My success or who cares!
No damn wonder people can’t progress! America doesn’t need strong
leadership, that’s standard dream-city thinking! What we need is good
men of like minds! Thats mind”_S_”!
Here’s a little week-end reading I was thinking about sending out and
I’ll include it as /MY wrap-up number, but my only regret is that my
once great Nation has headed for history’s septic tank for all those
reasons you have heard me tell you before!/
/~Hal~
/
Pogo (Walt Kelly) said: “Sir, we have found the Enemy and IT ARE US!”
Perhaps if we could figure out what the intense lure that brought
Americans on the whole to be hooked on pretense, we could find methods
to lead them out of their addiction to it! I am fully aware that MOST
of those who will read this will do so utilizing at very least a
modicum of a reach into the land of make believe as part of their
learned reading “skills”! I have deduced that the reason so many tend
to regard much they should learn as being for them overly complicated,
is that they assign that characteristic just out of the blue as a
rationalization to keep from opening their squeaky doors to knowledge
for themselves! There has become for most people a learned obstruction
to seeking truth because they have now ingrained PRETENSE that those
areas of thought which don’t just “open up” for them into an already
“learned” pattern of achievement, will bring the discomfort of far too
much effort. This is bolstered by little readily recognized need for
new information/knowledge into their pretended “normal” and “usual”
everyday needs and desires. Additionally those “needs and desires”
have themselves been made to fit a make-believe outreach of comforting
practicality. I further find this pretended minimal metes and bounds
for deep consideration and undertaking has become pretty universal
throughout all of a great many individual’s lifestyles. Because of the
above, the areas of real understanding in one’s life become “stuck in
a rut”, largely limited to those things considered mandatory to know
for pleasure seeking, food, clothing and shelter and the needs of a
“career”. This easily explains why there are so many who are just a
whiz of a dancer, physician, carpenter or other area of limited
skill/performance yet otherwise seem to be of extremely short reach or
aspiration. This also explains why there are so many fakers and
stymied “experts-in-the-field” whose superhighways of performance and
where-with-all come to a sudden end in a dirt road or need of a bridge
to continue over a problem terrain! This self-serving concept that
some area of accomplishment or expertise is beyond ability to
comprehend is habit forming augmented by generous collateral sympathy,
both of which hinder honest criticism as a societal norm which then is
reinforced by generous applications of pretended capabilities
regarding both present and needed knowledge!
Seek and Ye Shall Find; Knock, and It Shall Be Opened Unto You ~
Matthew 7:7y
We could go on at length as to both the syndrome as a character flaw
and as well more obvious examples of it but this should do for now per
my desire to establish how this societal cop-out mania has led to both
the tendency to create an artificiality of/in a society as well as how
it has provided a great feeding grounds for those who delight in using
another’s weaknesses to further weaken them while simultaneously
sucking values of others off for their own ill conceived aspirations –
like parasitical self-enrichment! I would like to stay with the broad
views and overall perspectives of overlooked information for just a
bit longer before we zoom in on specific targets of application. The
classic expression, “You can’t see the forest for the trees” serves
well here to illustrate the effect of pretense on the individual or
the “big picture”!
My unpleasant experience with the US Air Farce brought me to the cold
realization of how far down the old relief tube America had gone. In
the mid-fifties aviation cadets were the creame de la creame of
military corps. The first thing I saw – and I mean SAW first hand –
was that the entire operation was an ongoing theater of PRETENSE!
Strangely, even the element of flight was targeted for fantasy in
order to CONvince otherwise reasonable men that on occasion to forsake
reality was proper, dignified, and heroic in order that a MISSION be
accomplished. Fortunately there was a great deal of reality and actual
physical manipulation of controls involved in order that the specter
of flight actually be accomplished. It is actually hard for a real
airman to fashion that pretense could be imagineered into flight
training but I am here to tell you it all too often was and I was
fortunate enough through time to end up with an ace instructor who
enabled me to become a thumbs-up-tickety-boo accomplished flyer! There
*/were/* some who paid the ultimate price for mixing imagination with
travel above ground level! Through time I have learned that the desire
for “management” to incorporate the Brookings Institute’s PPBS with
flight is a “global” goal! If you can make combat pilots out of
so-called “ordinary” people this way is there no end to the goals,
good or ill, it can be set to achieve? Apparently not! Let’s take
another step into the “Big Picture” of life on planet Earth.
ALL people have a “religion”, some religions just have better
identities and better name recognition than others! In countless
cases, “ME” is a definitive religion and in others “THEY” define it!
For a great many years we on this orb have had three major religions:
God; Man, and the “Great Unknown”. Please do not confuse “unseen” with
“unknown”! As might be reasoned from the opening statements, the
“Great Unknown” is today very popular although it is often camouflaged
away in one of the other two. Although this exposition may seem to wax
into international content, it is my intent to keep any such
referenced confined to America with the histories of the Big Three
above so related. At present America is concerned with five major
religions with four out of five being the product of Men’s
imaginations and the fifth being unduly influenced likewise!
There are some ‘key words” here, the prime being “PRETEND” but right
in there is the word “FAITH”. Faith and pretense traffic a lot
together and nowhere greater than in “RELIGION”. History shows most of
the larger religions arose out of a mutual experience of environment
shared by groups in observation but not understanding. Much of the
commonly observed but as well unexplained common events, from the
space objects to the weather, eventually all came to be laid at the
feet of various man-made supernatural beings but always – until of
late – possessed the physical attributes of Man! Accordingly it was
early on learned that Man was manipulable through asserted tie-ins
with both unanswered physical nature and equally unexplainable “will
of the gods”. These eventually became religions where the Earthly
consequences were largely believed to have been in the hands of a few
Men who were the officially recognized as the religious leadership”.
Today we have three predominate religions of this type manifest in
America, “ The Roman Empire”, Islam, and the Judiac. ALL religions
have “Laws”, even the great unknowns! The Islamic version is called
“Sharia” and the laws dictate how life is to be carried out 24/7 by
the “Faithful”. The law is written down but is subject to
interpretation by a body of men who are placed in position
substantially by other Men! Taken from the Q’uran, it is intently
fashioned from the original pre-Mohammad compilation of sources which
included rules from ancient Babylon. The law of the Roman Empire,
called the Holy Roman Empire Law, was originally reconstructed upon
the laws of Babylon which the empire captured, and it is compiled by
men who are chosen, like those of Islam, from men who are the prelates
of the religion. The Judiac law is, like the former two, drawn from
laws previously assembled by men who other men have placed in command
of the religions law which had its origins too in the laws of Babylon
and is called the Babylon Talmud. All three of these laws have in
common an origin from Babylon which itself was a great religion and
which had developed methods of controlling ts society to the
satisfaction of those directly in governance! Additionally all these
depend highly on both the element of pretense and the participation of
all society in that pretense and its accommodation to the wishes of
those governing, Not strangely, this basis of law is called “Mystery
Babylon”. Much of Mystery Babylon is found in the practice and faith
of the religions which qualify as “Unknown beings of “superior
intellect”, as well in all these there is a great importance and power
given to an Earthly supreme being who sits at the top of methods of
rule. Some of the unknowns are quite unspecific about this identity
but in all four the identity is not associated in what the fifth would
so term “evil”. Evil is looked upon by all these as any force opposed
to its preeminent rule over the people!
The fifth religion is that following the Laws of Jesus Emanuel which
is termed the Christian Doctrine and it follows unchanging laws passed
down since the beginning of known time which was long thereafter the
beginning scripted by Moses. The key word here is “*UNCHANGING”* with
the only actual interference to this status since before the writing
of God’s laws coming from imagined interpretations of the Law by Men
either through language translations or personal imaginings of textual
content. The Laws of Christian Doctrine yet follow the same as those
of the original Scriptures as reemphasized unchanged by Christ who
modified only the rules of/for actual sacrifice to Almighty God by
more emphasis on personal performance of the Law and a more realistic
approach to fulfilling them in daily life. This is the standard of law
as adopted at the founding of the American republics and their compact
for assurance of their fulfillment on July 4^th , AD 1776. The most
striking feature of the formation of the united States of America
was/is its accent on realistic living with its second concentration of
_disallowance on the placing into the hands of men the manipulation of
the Rights given Men by their_ Almighty _Provider_.
>Nice to Know Who Your Friends Are; ESSENTIAL to Know Your Enemy<
The number of pretended symbols and fake conduct found in the first
four religious bodies is staggering by both immense number and
performance of intellectually derived procedures. There is a bottom
line here which is unavoidable: PROSPERITY FOR THE FEW FROM THE HANDS
OF THE MANY. Most are not interested in giving their concentrated
energies to the above matters for they feel it is either way over
their heads or too much trouble to understand. This is so although
there is not the slightest complicated thing yet said here, it is all
easily accessible fact, and essentially involved in America’s
immediate deep concerns and problems of the hour! I’ve covered
something for everyone in these brief pages and all people through all
time from the American view so now I’ll cover one more generality and
do a particular thing all to many need to understand. The general view
today is that strange and mysterious things are crunching us. Let’s
clear that up adding all the above to this overview.
All the above groups, and add China with their “unknowns”, have
followed a pattern of the few over the many and those trying to GET IT
ALL! Nimrod was apparently one of the first to think up ways to get
people to be willing to */contribute/* the fruits of their labor to
government for *BENEFITS AND PRIVILEGES* which they figured they could
never get on their own. He was very successful at cashing in on
people’s tendency to let their imaginations take over when they ran
short of intellectual prowess – or got real lazy! He figured if he
could make people believe that everyone could cash in on nature’s
bounties under *his* direction, he wouldn’t need to take the time,
effort and personal risk of taking it ALL! This he did by just
sneaking out a bit here and there around the table which worked out
like a “bring a covered dish” dinner; nobody gets exactly what they
like but everyone gets a little likeable something. Add a little extra
opportunity for the real game players, a little graft and corruption
to forestall a lot of personal ambition and endeavor from those who
would help “spread the vision” and *SOCIALISM* is born! Socialism is
where the rulers own/control everything and make the people believe
beef stew is better for you and better tasting than prime sirloin!
*/It takes a lot of stimulated imagination/*. You foster this with
imagined other benefits of a “shared economy”, a lot of display of
power and its use to control, such augmented with difficult or
uncomfortable to prove lies, and you have an elite rule by those who
are dedicated to preserving places at the highest levels of prosperity
by saying and/or doing “whatever-it-takes” to corral the masses by
fooling them flatteringly! What will these “elite” do to maintain
power? War; manipulated economies, manufactured shortages, pretended
horror so large a large government force is either eminently needed or
desirable to secure some deterrent against it which only the
government can provide, like pandemic sickness. Socialism is where the
government is supreme and will parcel out peace and prosperity so
everyone gets opportunity for a part if they are willing to *PRETEND
*things are really better than they seem to be and/or because they
feel the lack of where-with-all to understand and manage *COMPLEXITIES.*
* *
*Anything here seem even slightly familiar; *perhaps to government*
*either in your lifetime or stuff uncovered about it in the past?
We’ve taken an overview of people in government and people under their
control but how does that apply to other governments or government
forms in transition? Have you heard it said all government is just one
form or another of control over the individual, which they *all
operate strictly on power and that power of course has to come from
the denial of it from the individual? * Well socialism is just the
answer to the age old question for those who *seek* government
control! The unquestioned epitome of socialist control is its form
called *fascism. * That word is Italian (Fascist during WWII) and it
indicates many strong rods wrapped up by bands around a strong
military government (Which in the classic symbol is a battleaxe!) *IT
IS AN ANCIENT HOLY ROMAN MILITARY EMPIRE SYMBOL! * Yes the Vatican *IS
the **Holy Roman Empire*! True “communism” form of socialism has never
existed, nor does it now. The “Fascia” has been around forever! Zoom
in! Socialism in America:
Everyone knows someone in government. Fascism is military. Today’s
government is military. Know anyone in the military? They are exactly
the same pattern as the government, here are the elements: Civilians,
they support the military, just as people who do not in any fashion
derive a living from it support the government; the enlisted Men,
these compare to the civil servant who actually has no official
capacity such as the mail carrier of the clerk behind a counter; the
*officer corps*, these are the ones whose dedication is by a
commission, this is like the so-called “judge”, or the commissioner or
the appointed directors; the actual leaders, these are those who plan
the strategies to send all below out to die for, they never come near
the battlefront. Now are you thinking that group is the senators, the
various secretaries of departments and the supreme court judges? Think
again! The ultimate leaders of *ANY* military *OR* government are the
same as those in a monarchy, such as the papal monarchy. They are
neither those who receive the “money” or count it! They are the ones
who say */HOW IT WILL BE DISTRIBUTED SO THAT THEY AND THEIRS WILL
CONTROL IT ALL! Invariably they are CONNECTED TO THE BANKERS AND MANY
OF THEM HAVE NEITHER PUBLIC NAMES OR FACES! These are those who /WILL
NEVER TOUCH A WEAPON, UNLESS IT IS A BUTTON OR A SWITCH CONNECTED TO
ARMIES OF THEM! *
* *
There are people who feel either that they should or will control all
others and their entire existence is spent in the ascendance of the
pyramid. Few of them seek the top for their god already sits there and
it is merely its favor they seek. They never look down for they care
not who is beneath them, only that others are! On March 27^th , AD
1661 it was decided there could be no overhaul, no restructuring of
the existing system for it bore too many relics of July 4^th ! It had
to be replaced. America had left its Christ and when it did it left
home with its front door wide open, but it could not be entered by the
pirates. Reflect on that! God always plays fairly but always by His
*same rules*! A thing cannot both be and not be at the same time! The
word “*unalienable” *means Satan’s pirates have not been able to
secure the door left open! They abandoned it, fenced around it and
built a facsimile next to it! How many of God’s people will it take to
retake that unoccupied House! *NOTHING* stands in the way of the will
of God. He asked Abraham, “Is anything too great for the Lord?” One
man is aplenty if it suits the Master!
The *INDIVIDUAL* desiring Christian status but who feels things here
are too complex for his comfort or ability */can not/* seek God’s face
for those have denied Him by their lack of faith */and/* work. A Man
cannot be separate in pretense! A compact is /_not_/ the sacrifice of
*Individualism* or of individual Rights of God! What is being
sacrificed now for this pitiful and dwindling existence? Where is the
belief on Christ in the Life Everlasting? Is that no longer a part of
the Doctrine? Christians are so few – and so frail -- are they not!
*/FOR WE WRESTLE NOT AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD, BUT AGAINST
PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS, AGAINST THE RULERS OF THE DARKNESS, OF THIS
WORLD, AGAINST SPIRITUAL WICKEDNESS IN HIGH PLACES./*
*/ /*
*If you have given thought to coming out of **Babylon**, Tim Turner
has the right idea there!*
*~Hal~*
/
/--- On *Sun, 6/21/09, freeyourself_now
/<[email protected]>/* wrote:
From: freeyourself_now <[email protected]>
Subject: [1099-OID] Re: I am Sorry to you all in this Group.
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 8:54 PM
ALL I WILL SAY IS YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW TO READ & COMPREHEND WHAT
YOU ARE READING WITHOUT ANY PRECONCEIVED THOUGHTS. THIS IS WHAT IS
WRONG & WHY SO MANY HAVE THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY DO. YOU ARE NOT
LISTENING TO WHAT IS BEING SAID. TAKE THIS FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH.
--- In 1099-...@yahoogroup s.com
</mc/compose?to=1099-OID%40yahoogroups.com>, Cindy Revere
<clreve...@. ..> wrote:
>
> WOW,
>
> SOUNDS APOLOGETIC AND FRUITLESS.
>
> SOMEONE IS BEING HUMBLED. SOUNDS AS IF THE DTC ACCOUNTS, OID'S,
1099'S, 28'S, ETC. ARE NOT WORKING AS PLANNED?
>
> OH WELL! SO THE STORY GOES ON AND ON AND ON. . .
>
> --- On Sun, 6/21/09, Patrick Devine <ppdfarm1usa@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Patrick Devine <ppdfarm1usa@ ...>
> Subject: [1099-OID] I am Sorry to you all in this Group.
> To: 1099-...@yahoogroup s.com
</mc/compose?to=1099-OID%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 3:00 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I set the group up for you and myself to gain in knowledge and
understanding so that we could operate in this fictional public
system and then break free into the private system under the
protection of the Creator.
> I made a mistake in who I turned over Ownership of the group
too, I can no longer protect you from some of the false
information, both in the postings and the files.
> You are going to have to take the information that you believe
to be the Truth and start setting up your own groups and start
making it work for you. Do not be afraid to make mistakes, for I
have made more than my share. I am still learning, so I am still
be making them, when that process stops that would mean that the
final step has been taken.
> I leave this group with a sad heart, but I know you will overcome.
> I am going after the Certificate of Live Birth Account and going
to closed down the rest of the accounts. I am willing to give it
all to them to live (per Lott),for I would rather have the
knowledge/understan ding and be dead broke per the worlds
understanding. For it be far more rewarding to be in alignment
with the CREATOR.
> See you down the road, I will be in the background somewhere, no
more calls please. Good-By to you all.
> You can all do things greater than me.
> Patrick
>
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