Jerry~ Are you the author here or -- as it seems -- Thurston bell is?? What serems to be apparent here is that you have stumbled upon someone who just has a deeper understanding of the far reaching issues involved! It's not that it takes an especially talented or well suited person who just comes along that way as with some inborn inclination, but rather Bell (Again assuming it's his work posted -- has seemingly reached out without the usual clouded perception of pretended right and wrong which is as well more often found overburdened with a like abundance of imagination/emotion. The real advantage he displays here is a strong grip on realism. Unhappily most think a mastery of complexity and endless detail -- such as is seen in the liawyer -- is mandatory to figure out the affairs of Men. The fact is, just the opposite is true. A thorough familiarity with basic principles and how they may be made to interact to do the heavy lifting of understanding into its applications, is key to successful mutual understanding and achievement. Americans are from birth trained to more respect motion than direction and to accept only group accomplishment and the flow of energy and output into some sort of outside supervised progress and prosperity. Over time Men in America moved away from the burdens of individual responsibity having found the consistency and perpetual acts and laws of Almighty God to be too inflexible for them and have abandoned it with their allowance to be a spectator in matters of life function, participating only under direction of other men who, altho being the actual players, promoted the illusion among most that they were actually the spectators of Men's productivity for the purpose of spreading the commom wheal and pretended greater individual opportunity and flex in those affairs of men. I am not saying Thurston must be one who rings the Belleverytime he drops the hammer, but his stance here is most sound! (If you can have some fun with the pun here intended!) ~Hal~
________________________________ From: Jerry <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 4:47:04 PM Subject: [MYRLANDsMETHODs] Re: IS YOUR STATE GOVT LIABLE FOR YOUR FORECLOSURE BY BREACH OF CONTRACT?? Without taking the time to examine the case which appears to be cited, there are severe problems of conflict of this idea with the concept of UNALIENABLE Rights. One only has to look at Private Real Property to know that one cannot move their property into the realm of a Sovereign State. In examination of the Northwest Ordinance (1787) we see in Section 14 Article 3 that the Property of the Inhabitants pre-existed the formation of the State and the Property Rights were inviolate and in perpetuum. This is consistent with the Virginia Constitution of 1776 which plainly explains that unalienable Rights cannot be waived by any one or any generation to then effect the unalienable Rights of posterity. So when did the State become sovereign over the Rights of individuals who are not created by government to then be subject to its statutes and law (McCullough v. Maryland)? This case as provided makes for a bulwark against in perpetuum property Rights that were unalienable to all of the People by the fundamental law that no state has authority to create law against (West Virginia Board of Education v. Barnette). It is possible, since Samuel Adams went Tyrant when he obtained power over Massachusetts and crushed Shayes Rebellion, that the Supreme Court's cheese slipped off their cracker at about the same time. Still, how is this thinking justifiable in light of unalienable? And, do we want to continue to justify such diseased thought? Thurston Paul Bell --- In MYRLANDsMETHODs@ yahoogroups. com, darren michaels <darren34276@ ...> wrote: > > > IS YOUR STATE GOVT LIABLE FOR YOUR FORECLOSURE BY BREACH OF CONTRACT ?????? > > so here is the problem..... ......your pay your real estate taxes every year > right? > > There has been a contractual agreement enforce and an exchange consideration > via real estate taxes in exchange for protection by the STATE.... then the > STATE GOVERNMENT has a contractual obligation and duty to protect the > individual sovereign since he/she had placed his/her property within the > territory and jurisdiction of another sovereign (THE STATE) against steadily > encroachments (BOYD v US). > > Due to the foreclosure collapse where the banks have DECEPTIVELY sold the > notes (normally sold to asset backed security mortgages pools to > international investors) and have illegally seized the property of the > individual sovereign then wouldn't the STATE ALSO BE LIABILITY FOR BREACH OF > CONTRACT via real estate tax contract in exchange for protection as defined > in M'CULLOCH v. STATE ?? > > Didn't you STATE GOVT fail to meet their statutory fiduciary responsibilities > and/or trustee duties in protecting your home?? > > PURSUANT TO.......... .. > M'CULLOCH v. STATE, 17 U.S. 316 (1819) > > 17 U.S. 316 (Wheat.) > > To this purpose, the United States and the several states must be considered > as sovereign and independent; and the principle is clear, that a sovereign > (an individual - singular form) putting his property within the territory and > jurisdiction of another sovereign (THE STATE GOVT through delegated authority > given by the People via voting & taxation) , and of course, under his > protection, submits it to the ordinary taxation of the state, and must > contribute fairly to the wants of the revenue. > > In other words, the jurisdiction of the state extends over all its territory, > and everything within or upon it, with a few known exceptions. 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