Jerry~ Not so much in correction or instruction as in information-- There is in America NO one single nation, nor are there 50 states. Check it out! There are 32 presently existent States in the COMPACT initiated by and with the identity "The united States of America" (See actual copy of original document) Those States ostensibly admitted into this compact are quite veiled by the itself nebulous instrument put into possibly special service in AD1789. Assuming the positive benefit of the doubt, those states "admitted" between AD1776 and AD1861 (with the exception of Kentucky which was none-the-less the most westward county of Virginia prior to its creation as an independent sovereign Nation of sovereign individual Men being a State) were claimed to be independent Nation States as well. Here it is best to consider the reality that by definition, a "nation" can not be something itself composed of "nations"! You will perhaps wish to give that some mental simmering. Additionally there is a reason why our Several States were alluded to as "united" in the form you correctly make (Small "u"). There was never any intention that the better part of the North American Continent be made into any sort of a nation per se! That further explains why the term "Confederation" was even itself not made into any title but rather a descriptive term for a NON-BINDING alignment (Perhaps best thought of as not even an "alliance") What today non-exists, as what you in defiance refer to strongly as the " sovereign 50 states, are indeed neither "sovereign" nor are they "states"! These things are actually non-existent intellectual "creations" of some Men's minds ostensibly (Though far from being actually so) all agreeing to PRETEND they are real! "Sovereign" does indeed have many definitions but amongst them there is found firm delineation referring to "Powers" as such and to a living person and to the powers of the living person. It may only be regarded as elementary that do to the usage of the term power, it must have force in reality. Accordingly it would be foolish to assign "sovereignty" as a real power over real men unless it had behind it the force of reality. That means application of the force of sovereignty must be made by living Men! The definition of nations involve living people and other real elements such as real boundaries geometrically affixed. Again the term nation is ill applied to what you allude to as "the sovereign 50 states" which in actuality likely refers to 50 corporate STATES acting in pretense of being something sovereign! (See definition of sovereign) Men living together are considered to be in or of a "state". If they form a social order it is known as a State (A thing given a proper noun "name"). The way you wrote it you cannot be referring to what I think you intend! That's because you chose words which indicate -- out of order in sentence structure -- 50 gatherings of Men each state being sovereign which of course is impossible by sheer word meaning. As I pointed out, a gathering of Men is called a state, such being a state of existence as opposed to an existent State, which is a social order of Men. Hey! Words are important as you are learning with your real experiences in play pretend courts! ANY incorporation is sheer PLAY-PRETENSE! Pretended "STATES" ARE NOT real! De Jure means real -- De Facto means NOT REAL! Unless you are a liawyer, that's the way it is! I well know the "AMERICAN WAY'! Artificial color, artificial flavor, artificial preservatives, artificial voting, artificial light, artificial gold bullion, artificial hair, artificial teeth, artificial fuels, artificial make-up, artificial leather, artificial fabrics, artificial video, artificial musical instruments, artificial rubber, Artificial etc.-etc.-etc. until we arrive at artificial law giving artificial government for artificial people called incorporated (Given artificial corpora -- bodies) PERSONS! (Ens legis). I wouldn't mislead you for the world for you are fighting the Old Dragon, but we have been given a very narrow road to victory over evil here and we need to aid each other not to stray to far off the sadly not well beaten path, for all the foul creatures -- like liawyers -- are just (in the noun form) lying in wait in that jungle beside the pathway! ~Hal~ --- On Sun, 3/7/10, Jerry Stanton <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Jerry Stanton <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MYRLANDsMETHODs] (unknown) To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 12:52 PM Hal the united states of America the sovereign 50 states. Jerry From: hal <hgwa...@yahoo. com> To: MYRLANDsMETHODs@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 10:29:50 PM Subject: Re: [MYRLANDsMETHODs] (unknown) Jerry~ I deeply pray God blesses you with the wherewithall to carry on. You are certainly headed in the right direction! One bit of a criticql question: What "nation"? ~Hal~ --- On Sat, 3/6/10, Jerry Stanton <farm_st...@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Jerry Stanton <farm_st...@yahoo. com> Subject: [MYRLANDsMETHODs] (unknown) To: Cornforth-Strategie s...@yahoogroups. com, MYRLANDsMETHODs@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 3:01 PM Went to the Hillsdale Michigan tea party this week. 198 people attended. They had three speakers. The man that emceed the event was Jeremiah Hodshire the under Sheriff of Hillsdale County. Who spoke spoke for about 10 or 15 minutes and waved a copy of the U.S Constitution above his head and said we all have to remember this. Not being able to take it anymore . I stud up and asked him why he was here. Was not the sheriff department the reason this county was having so many problems. Was it not the sheriff department that came to Montgomery Michigan with guns and drove a man out of his home and had a bulldozer destroy the house put it in a dumpster? Was it not the sheriff department that was coming to our neighbors homes and diving them out of their houses using void judgments that were used where third party debt collectors brought action for banks, that had already sold the mortgage and collected the the mortgage insurance and had been compensated by the mortgage bailout, paid for by the America people? Was not the sheriff department responible for the throwing of families into the streets that could not pay there property taxes do to the fact our corrupt Corporate STATE had taxed most jobs and companies out of the state and was now taking the land and there homes in a unconstitutional manner outside the 5th amendment were they can only be taken under common law and when paid just compensation ? Under Sheriff Jeremiah Hodshire only response after trying to cut me off three times was. Its contract law. To let everyone know that the United States Supreme Court and other high courts has said on this matter. Marbury v. Madison, 5th U.S. (2 Cranch) 137,180 “All laws, rules and practices which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void” Boyd v. United States, 116 U.S. 616, 635 “It is the duty of the courts to be watchful for the Constitutional rights of the citizen and against any stealthy encroachments thereon” MIRANDA V. ARIZONA, 384 U.S. 436, 491 (1966), “Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them.” SMITH V. ALLWRIGHT, 321 US 649, 644, “Constitutional rights would be of little value if they could be indirectly denied,” and GORMILLION V. LIGHTFOOT, 364 U.S. 339, 345, “or manipulated out of existence.” US V. GUTHRIE, 789 F3d 1243 (D.C. Cir. 1996), “For the government to punish a person because he had done what the law plainly allows him to do is a due process violation of the most basic sort.” Brady v U.S., 397 U.S. at 749, 90 S.Ct. 1463 at 1469 (1970) Fuentes v. Shevin, 407 U.S. 67 (1972); Brookhart v. Janis, 384 U.S. 6 (1966); Empask V. U.S., 349 U.S. 1990 (1955); Johnson V. Zerbst, 304 U.S. 58 (1938) “Waivers of constitutional rights not only must be voluntary but must be knowingly intelligent acts done with sufficient awareness of the relevant circumstances and likely consequences.” This statement was written from memory and may not be exact in words. The one good thing I got to say it and I,am still free. May God again bless this nation. Jerry James Stanton Allen, Michigan __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (3) Recent Activity: New Members 5 Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___
