Bob~ Now you don’t think American “US CITIZENS” are lapping up the Kool-Aid in 
the bottom controlled press article as a cat laps up cream, do you?~Hal~

--- On Sun, 5/23/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:


From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Fwd: mainstream media report on Kane & son/my comment
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 11:50 AM






Obviously, it's only a crime for Americans to drive without driver's 
licenses....if one is an illegal alien, the 'authorities' often just let them 
go since it just adds more to the existing burden of allowing them to be here. 
Such is the frustration of some sheriff deputies and police officers, yet most 
have no clue that our Constitution and laws have no jurisdiction over aliens.

Bob J

-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Wagner <[email protected]>
To: patwagner <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, May 23, 2010 10:15 am
Subject: mainstream media report on Kane & son/my comment 



here's one article, below, re: the Kane shootings after killing 2 cops.  
(thanks to Connie for f'wdg)  there was also an article in the Sunday Cols 
(Ohio) Dispatch newspaper, titled, "Sheriff had warned of Ohioans killed in 
Arkansas." of course, both articles depict them as, "Members of so-called 
patriot groups (who) don’t recognize the authority of the U.S. government and 
consider themselves sovereign citizens."   so, for all you 'patriots' who hold 
this belief, beware!!  things are going to get much worse as these kind of 
incidents occur and/or are staged.   
 
while listening to the Larry Becraft & Tom Cryer show, Saturday, 5/22, the Kane 
situation was discussed.  one of the main issues of this discussion pointed out 
how many Americans are getting fed up with government oppression.  
it's apparent, by many persons who knew the Kane's, the father was being pushed 
beyond his limits.  granted, he probably caused many of the confrontations with 
the powers-that-be, however, when one questions, resists, or challenges 
authority, especially, when the authority is becoming tyrannical as has been 
happening in America over the past 100 yrs, various individuals will become 
violent.  this is human nature; however, since governments are the 'almighty,' 
violence will not be tolerated if their 'slaves' get restless.  America knows 
this only too well.... Ruby Ridge, Waco, along with many other violent 
situations by guv thugs.  
 
when a country continually experiences attacks on their person, liberty & 
property by guv hirelings this, in turn, creates unrest, which, as history so 
well proves, can accelerate to violent means.  however, this doesn't condone 
violence.  as was pointed out on the program, there are so many ways Americans 
could peacefully bring this nation to its knees if only they would study 
history & learn how to use the tools our Forefathers bestowed.
 
for instance, replacing elected officials with another republican, or democrat 
isn't the answer... they all have their own agenda.  the entire Congress needs 
to be replaced with an entirely different bunch of clowns. if that doesn't 
work, then the American peeps had better protest by refusing to participate in 
anymore guv entitlements, or programs... and, this means a massive protest... 
not just a few who are gonna end up in the gulag for some tax crime, or other 
'micky mouse' charge.  that approach, any longer, isn't worth it.  the courts 
are becoming more corrupt & tyrannical.  no one is going to get a fair trial 
when it comes to any guv challenge.  which brings another subject to the table, 
that wasn't discussed on the Becraft/Cryer program.
 
who is more violent than governments?  all it takes is a stamp of approval by 
all guv miscreants in order to 'legally' commit murder, maim, cause mass 
destruction & complete annihilation of whoever they deem targets.  they don't 
have to be accountable for any of these crimes. when law enforcement hirelings, 
or military forces are used to commit violence of mass destruction, the masses 
of asses give a Roman 'thumbs up' to kill the enemy, or whoever stands in their 
way for disagreeing, or protesting the 'kings' laws/regs/public policies.  this 
is a sociological 'taken-for-granted' attitude.  the 'king' can do no wrong, 
therefore, the 'slaves' will be punished.  
 
as for the pukes from the southern poverty law center who never write about how 
guv thugs murder, torture, destroy & annihilate the masses, these fork-tongued, 
demonic assaholics are nothing more than anti-American & creatures of terrorism.
 
this brings to the table the question of, who cares about any of the 
above?  even if terrorists, or evil doers, who attack this country, were proven 
to be manipulated by persons behind closed doors, which are controlled by the 
powers-that-be, who cares?  most peeps think these conspiratorial theories are 
nothing more than fantasy.  one must always believe & never question what 
the 'king' & its regime dictate because they are our almighty rulers!!!  as the 
old saying goes, 'we have met the enemy & the enemy is US.'
 
feel free to distribute to whomever you want... any kind, decent, logical, 
intelligent comments are welcome... pat    
 
 
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 9:06 AM



Ohioan’s anti-government views built over years
He talked of ‘suicide by cop,’ friend says 
Sunday,  May 23, 2010 2:58 AM



>From wire reports 
 
Jerry Kane, right, 45, and his son Joseph, believed to be 16, in a photo from a 
website promoting classes on fighting foreclosure

As a young man, Columbus native Jerry Kane wanted to change government. The 
extreme views against public officials that he would hold years later were not 
yet solidified. But there were hints. 
Kane moved to Springfield as a child with his family in 1975, and he ran for 
city commission three times, the first time when he was 18 in 1983. He was 
already looking askance at society, he told a recent audience of his radio 
podcast. 
Years later, his resentment of authority and run-ins with the law were enough 
for the Clark County sheriff to warn that Kane could be dangerous if confronted 
by law enforcement. 
Last week, the Forest, Ohio, resident and his teenage son, Joseph, were killed 
in a shootout with police in Arkansas.
The two are suspected of having fatally shot two Arkansas police officers 
during a traffic stop about 90 minutes earlier. West Memphis police Sgt. 
Brandon Paudert, 39, and Officer Bill Evans, 38, were attacked with AK-47 
assault rifles after they stopped a minivan on I-40 in West Memphis. 
Jerry Kane, who had a long history with police, used the Internet to question 
federal and local governments’ authority over him. 
He recently complained about being busted at a “Nazi checkpoint” near 
Carrizozo, N.M., where court records show he spent three days in jail before 
posting a $1,500 bond on charges of driving without a license and concealing 
his identity. 
Clark County, Ohio, Sheriff Gene Kelly said he issued a warning to law 
enforcement about Kane in July 2004, after Kane said a judge had tried to 
“enslave” him by sentencing him to six days of community service for driving 
with an expired license plate and no seat belt. Kane claimed he was a “free 
man” and asked for $100,000 per day in gold or silver, Kelly said. 
Members of so-called patriot groups don’t recognize the authority of the U.S. 
government and consider themselves sovereign citizens. 
Friends said that Kane had changed after the death of a baby daughter from SIDS 
in the 1990s. “He went off the deep end,” said Tim Baulky, who had served with 
him in the Army Reserve in the late 1980s. 
Baulky said Kane had predicted he would die in grand fashion one day.
“He had claimed more than once it would be suicide by cop, and he was going to 
take as many of them with him as he could,” Baulky said. “Everybody knew 
something like this would happen. It’s not that he wanted to die; he wanted to 
go out in a blaze of glory. He wanted his name to live forever.” 
In a video on YouTube, Jerry Kane is seen giving a lecture in 2009 on his 
philosophy and says, “I don’t want to have to kill anybody, but if they keep 
messing with me ... that’s what it’s going to come down to, is I’m going to 
have to kill. And if I have to kill one, then I’m not going to be able to stop, 
I just know it.” 
Kane made money by holding debt-elimination seminars around the country.
JJ MacNab, a Maryland-based insurance analyst who has testified before Congress 
on tax and financial scams, said she had been tracking Kane for about two years 
and that his business centered on debt-avoidance scams. 
“He basically promised them they would never have to repay their mortgage or 
credit-card debt,” MacNab said.
Signs of Kane’s anti-government beliefs were apparent in a lengthy fight 
against the foreclosure on his Springfield home.
Months after Kane and his wife bought the home, JPMorgan Chase & Co. and 
Homecomings Financial Network filed for foreclosure with Clark County Common 
Pleas Court. In response, Kane represented himself and submitted a lengthy 
“Affidavit of Truth.” 
Judge Richard O’Neill, in his decision against Kane in 2006, called the 
defendant’s filings “nonsensical ramblings.”
Information from the Associated Press and Cox News Service was used in this 
story.



      

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