On 27 Feb 2008, at 2:20 AM, OrgDork DotOrg wrote:

>
>>>>>> I personally think it's not a good idea to scroll the PDF to the
>>>>>> note.
>>>>>> For one thing, you can have multiple selection. Also the  
>>>>>> selection
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> have another function, e.g. for copying. E.g. currently, you can
>>>>>> copy
>>>>>> a note from the notes table and paste it at the page you're
>>>>>> viewing.
>>>>>> That would be lost with your proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christiaan
>
>
>>>> Any of the arrow combinations has been assigned, unless you want
>>>> something like control-shift-option-command-arrow. See the Wiki. In
>>>> fact we already have a lack of arrow shortcuts, Leopard has made  
>>>> some
>>>> shortcuts useless. Moreover moving in a table through arrows is
>>>> build-
>>>> in functionality, we are not notified on how the selection is
>>>> changed,
>>>> only that it is changed. Moreover this would be rather non-standard
>>>> behavior, which users wouldn't easily find. And there must be  
>>>> really
>>>> really good reasons to do that.
>>>>
>>>> Christiaan
>
>
>>>> On 26 Feb 2008, at 11:49 PM, Bill Mohler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On the issue of scrolling the pdf, what if a special-key-and-arrow
>>>>> in
>>>>> the notes pane  were to cause scrolling/selecting in the pdf pane?
>>>>> In playing with my notes pane just now I don't recognize any
>>>>> function
>>>>> that control-arrow, command-arrow, or control-command-arrow are
>>>>> assigned to.  They seem to be unmodified functionally.  If one of
>>>>> those combinations were to be given the same functionality as a
>>>>> double-click on the page number in the notes pane (scrolls and
>>>>> selects the note within the pdf), it would give the effect that  
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> suggesting.  It seems that it would be unobtrusive with respect to
>>>>> the problems you've mentioned, since you would have to  
>>>>> intentionally
>>>>> browse with the modified arrows to have the effect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>
>
> On 27 Feb 2008, at 12:09 AM, Bill Mohler wrote:
>>
>> OK.
>
>
> On 2/26/08 6:51 PM, "Christiaan Hofman" wrote:
>
>> Well, it could work with Command arrow, as at least when the table is
>> selected that would otherwise do nothing.
>>
>> Christiaan
>
>
> Yes, I think Bill's suggestion is a good one.  I have never  
> understood why
> the typical Mac-like arrow keys did not move up/down to the next  
> note in the
> list.  It seems natural that this would happen.
>

Well, it does and always has. Unless you have somehow messed with your  
keyboard layout.

>
> As for the scrolling to that location...I don't like that idea, for  
> the
> reasons Christian said, generally (although I don't think lots of  
> folks are
> pasting into a PDF).  I just wouldn't want the screen to be moving  
> so much
> as I reviewed notes sequentially.
>

I think you missed the point of Bill's suggestion: scrolling to the  
point of the note was exactly what he requested and I rejected.

> On the main topic:  arrow keys to move up/down in notes list...
>
> This seems very intuitive (I still sometimes do it, when I'm not  
> thinking.)
>
>
> The modifier key idea came immediately to my head after Christiaan's  
> first
> reply, so I'm with Bill on that.  There are ways (with available  
> keys) to do
> that so that the user understands, I think.
>
> Makes sense:  hold a key, press and arrow and move through notes.
>
> (Of course, I still don't understand why the typical arrow key  
> doesn't do
> that. I didn't follow the explanation.)
>
> -- 
> G.

So it's probably something messed up on your system. If it works in  
other tables it should work in the notes table.

Christiaan


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