I can't use bundles because I associate my pdfs as attachments in my
bibliography management program (Sente) and it does not recognize .pdfd
files as a valid attachment kind. Also it appears that I cannot open pdfd
files with other pdf reader/editor programs, and sharing them with others
will be very difficult. (I didn't read up much on how pdfd files work,
other than bundling a bunch of files into a folder, so perhaps I am
mistaken here).
I don't want to try to maintain my own version of Skim, but perhaps Patrick
could send his code and I might try that for a while. I am not enough of a
programmer (or enough of a zealot) to try to maintain my own fork of Skim,
but it seems that many of us would prefer to use .skim files as sidecar
files, or even just to synchronize changes across Dropbox, rather than just
as backups as Christiaan prefers.
I understand Christiaan's preferences here, but I just need to get work
done, using multiple computers.
A
On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> On Apr 28, 2016, at 20:26, Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 28, 2016, at 17:33, Alan Harper (lists) <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Dropbox does not synchronize the extended attributes that Skim uses to
> store notes. I think that with a small modification to Skim, it would be
> easy to use .skim files to maintain synchronized notes across computers.
>
> When I add a pdf to Computer A and then make some notes (and have
> "Automatically save Skim notes backups" checked), then the notes are saved
> to the extended attributes and a .skim file is created.
>
> If I then open the pdf on Computer B, Skim notices that there is a .skim
> file (brought over by Dropbox) but no .skim notes (since the extended
> attribute was not synchronized), and helpfully asks me whether I want to
> read the notes from the .skim file. This behavior is exactly right in my
> opinion.
>
> If I then change the the notes on computer B, the change is reflected in
> the .skim file on computer A, but not in the .pdf file, and I have to
> remember to read the notes on A in order to have them synchronized.
>
> However, it should be easy to have Skim offer to read the notes, just as
> it does in the first case.
>
> When I save the notes on computer B, the modify date of both the .pdf and
> the .skim files are updated. But when I go back to computer A, the modify
> date of the .pdf is older than the .skim file on that computer. (Dropbox
> brought the .skim file over, but since there was no change, for the
> attributes that Dropbox monitors, in the .pdf, the modify date of the .pdf
> was not changed).
>
> If Skim noticed that the .skim file had a later modify date than the .pdf,
> and offered to read the notes from the .skim file, it would make keeping
> the notes in sync easy. Skim could put up the message like ("The notes
> associated with this file may have been modified, would you like to load
> the new notes?") I don't see any downside to this behavior, but perhaps I
> haven't thought enough about it.
>
> I don't think that this would violate Christiaan's rule against sidecar
> files, which I can understand, even if I don't always agree with it.
>
> Alan
>
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>
> Yes, this goes strongly against my problems with sidecar files. Because
> what you want is for us to ignore notes is EAs when there is a .skim file.
> The .skim file is only supposed to be a backup, not a primary storage, so
> when there are notes in the EAs, we have no reason to look any further, and
> certainly not override them.
>
> Christiaan
>
>
> BTW, probably the best way to use Dropbox with skim notes is to covert to
> PDF bundles. The whole idea about a package is to really associate the
> different files, solving the problem of sidecar files.
>
> Christiaan
>
>
>
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