Hi Moritz,

My understanding is that the section you quoted on the "right to be
forgotten" refers to the controller's (i.e. your) obligation to inform
_other_ controllers processing the data (in this case: other keyserver
operators who, through gossip, have a "copy or replication" of the
personal data) about the data subject's request for deletion. "Technical
measures" in this context would, for instance, be a way to automatically
propagate the deletion to other servers; as this is not possible, you
only have to take "reasonable steps" to inform others, like sending an
email to your peers. If somebody wants you to delete their data, you
will definitely have to delete it, regardless of how difficult this is
to achieve with SKS.

A whole different issue is how you would get a data subject's permission
to process their data in the first place, and how you would notify them
about the fact that you are processing their data, both of which are
required by the GDPR.

Regards

Klaus-Uwe


On 2018-04-29 13:02, Moritz Wirth wrote:
> Hi Fabian,
>
> first of all, I am not a lawyer so you should not rely on my response as
> it may be wrong :)
>
> - The GDPR applies to all persons and companies who are located in the
> EU or offering goods, services or who monitor the behavior of EU data
> subjects - this means that all keyservers are affected regardless where
> they are physically located. (https://www.eugdpr.org/gdpr-faqs.html)
>
> - Personal Data includes Names, Photos, social posts, IP-Addresses.. (so
> it seems that everything that can be connected to a person is included
> here).
>
> - The Right to be forgotten: People have the right to get their data
> deleted if it is no longer necessary in relation to the purpose they
> were collected. I think this means that if someone wants to have their
> data deleted, you have to delete it - given the fact above that some
> keys include personal name or even photos, you would be required to
> delete them (even if you are in the USA). However, I am not sure - the
> text says "the controller, taking account of available technology and
> the cost of implementation, shall take reasonable steps, including
> technical measures, to inform controllers which are processing the
> personal data that the data subject has requested the erasure by such
> controllers of any links to, or copy or replication of, those personal
> data." <-- Given the fact that it is not possible to delete data from a
> keyserver, I am not sure how this would be handled. (Same applies to for
> reasons of public interest in the area of public health in accordance
> with points (h) and (i) of Article 9(2) as well as Article 9(3) but I
> didnt check on that). (https://gdpr-info.eu/art-17-gdpr/)
>
> - I heard that you must sign (physical) contracts with data processing
> companies (this may also include Google and Google Analytics, I am not
> sure about Google Fonts etc but since Google gets your IP...) if you
> share the data of your user with them (e.g using GA on your site).
> ("Controller will need to have in place an appropriate contract with any
> other Controller that it jointly shares data with if that Controller
> particularly is outside the EU."). Should not really matter (except for
> Google Fonts) - at the end the use of Tracking services is up to the
> keyserver admin itself
> (https://www.netskope.com/blog/gdpr-data-processing-agreements/)
>
> The first thing I would do is to include a checkbox in the webtemplate
> that every person who queries or uploads a key via the webinterface
> agrees to your data policy - in the data policy you should explain what
> happens when a key is uploaded, that it is distributed to other
> keyservers, (IPs are collected whatever you do) and that it is not
> possible to delete keys once they are uploaded.
>
> If someone has more information on this or something to correct feel
> free to do so :)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Moritz
>
>
> Am 29.04.18 um 12:24 schrieb Fabian A. Santiago:
>> So,
>>
>> As I understand it, GDPR concerns all EU citizen users of a site, regardless 
>> of where the site is hosted. How does this affect keyservers? I've seen at 
>> least one server going offline due to it. Should I be concerned as an 
>> American keyserver host? 
>> --
>>
>> Fabian A. Santiago
>>
>> OpenPGP:
>>
>> 0x643082042dc83e6d94b86c405e3daa18a1c22d8f (current key)
>>  0x3c3fa072accb7ac5db0f723455502b0eeb9070fc (to be retired / revoked)
>>
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