Even 2003UB313 hasn't been officially called a planet.  The discoverer has been
using that term since it's bigger than Pluto, but it's up to the IAU to decide.
 Possibly Pluto could get demoted instead.

-John


--- Pradipta shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  
> Why are you calling 2003EL61 a planet? It is just one of the KBOs. 
> Officially 2003UB313 has been qualified as a planet. The confusion might have
> occured due to same time announcement of discovery of the other object.
> Pradipta Shrestha
> 
> John Mahony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, at least you can see it, barely separated from the star.  I do some
> asteroid chasing (mostly follow-up astrometric measurements of newly
> discovered
> near-earth asteroids), and this is a common problem.  In fact, EL61 is
> currently in a sparse area of the sky, near the galactic pole.  You should
> see
> what happens when I try to find an object moving through the plane of the
> Milky
> Way!
> 
> -John
> 
> 
> --- Robert Vanderbei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi John,
> > 
> > You are right.  How unlucky can I be.  I'll have to try again sometime.
> > 
> > --Bob
> > 
> > John Mahony wrote:
> > 
> > >It looks like you got it, but the situation is not as simple as it looks. 
> > At
> > >the time of your picture, 2003 EL61 (mag 17.5) was almost exactly at the
> > >location of a slightly brighter mag 17.1 star- the separation is only
> about
> > 4".
> > > But the time of your CdC screen capture is about 1 hour later, by which
> > time
> > >2003 EL61 was so close to the star that the asteroid symbol in CdC covers
> > the
> > >star.
> > >You might also need to use the "show more stars" icon to show the fainter
> > >stars.
> > >
> > >Look closely at the image and you'll see two objects at the location
> > indicated
> > >by CdC.  The slightly brighter object on the left is the star.  2003 EL61
> is
> > >fainter, a few pixels to the right and slightly up.
> > >
> > >If you "show more stars" in CdC, you'll also notice a mag 17.7 star barely
> > >showing in your image about 38" north and slightly east (left) of 2003
> EL61
> > and
> > >the first star.
> > >
> > >-John  
> > >
> > >  
> > >  
> > >
> > >--- Robert Vanderbei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >>My understanding is that one of the 3 new planets announced a week or 
> > >>two ago is designated
> > >>2003EL61.  I got ephemeris info from the Cartes-du-Ciel user's group.  
> > >>Last night I imaged the
> > >>correct patch of sky.  From the ephemeris file, the object is listed as 
> > >>mag 17.5. 
> > >>If that is correct, then I think I successfully imaged it (just barely).
> > >>
> > >>The image and the corresponding sky chart are posted here:
> > >>
> > >>http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/images/NJP/2003EL61.html
> > >>
> > >>It was rather low in the early evening and so there was lots of NJ sky 
> > >>glow---not a very pretty
> > >>image.  Nonetheless, it seems that I got it.
> > >>
> > >>And, not to waste the first clear evening in a long time, I grabbed a 
> > >>snapshot of M92 too:
> > >>
> > >>http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/images/NJP/m92.html
> > >>
> > >>-- Bob
> > >>Robert J. Vanderbei
> > >>http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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