Hi John

Thanks very much! Everything is working fine. But I have still one question. Do 
you have an idea how I could accurately measure the altitude of my horizon? I 
own a small Alt-Az-Telescope, but how do I make sure that the Azimut-direction 
is the right one? I mean, I only can estimate it visually with a compass. But 
I'd like to look up in CdC when (in clearly-sub-minute accuracy) e.g. a planet 
or a star appears behind a mountain to be able to prepare for events that might 
happen. Any idea? Maybe something with GoogleEarth?

Greetings

Luzius


--- In [email protected], John Mahony <jmmah...@...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> 
> > From: luzius.thuerlemann <luzius.thuerlem...@...>
> > 
> > Hi John
> > 
> > You write that the chart must be in Alt-Az to be able to show the local 
> > horizon.
> 
> Yes.  The display has two modes, either alt-az (zenith is up, and either 
> alt-az or eq grid or both can be displayed, and the horizon is shown) or 
> equatorial (celestial north is up, and only the eq grid can be displayed, and 
> the horizon is not shown).  Patrick used various names for these modes, but 
> click the icon with the two curved blue arrows, normally in the middle of the 
> right toolbar.  
>  
> > I now tried to alter the Alt-numbers in the horizon_Geneve-file and saved 
> > it 
> > under another file-name...so the Geneve-file isn't overwritten. But for 
> > some 
> > reason, neither my own trial-horizon nor the Geneve-horizon is displayed on 
> > the 
> > chart. 
> > Also, I can only display the Equatorial grid but not the Azimutal one, 
> > although 
> > both are activated under "lines".
> 
> That means the chart is in eq display mode.  You need to switch to alt-az 
> mode.
> 
> -John
>  
> 
> > About my trial-horizon-file: starting Azimut is 0, ending one 359.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Luzius
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], John Mahony wrote:
> > >
> > > That looks like the same format as for v2.76.  It's a text file with the 
> > alt-az numbers.  See the help file.
> > > 
> > > But even without this, there is a "default" horizon at alt=0, when you 
> > > have 
> > CdC set to show an alt-az view.  So this much should work even without 
> > making 
> > your own horizon file.  This (or a custom horizon, if you make your own 
> > file) 
> > will only show in alt-az display mode.
> > > 
> > > In the "chart appearance" window, check the horizon details shown at the 
> > bottom.  The "invisible" checkbox doesn't mean what it sounds like.  It 
> > makes 
> > the sky (below the horizon) invisible, so you just see the (normally) green 
> > ground below alt=0.  But if you uncheck it, it makes the ground 
> > semi-transparent, so you can see stars through the colored ground.
> > > 
> > > -John
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: Graham 
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 7:03:26 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [skychart-discussion] local horizon creation
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Luziuz,
> > > > I managed to do it in version 3 not sure about 2.76c, it like doing a 
> > > > html 
> > image 
> > > > map, below is the part from the help file, the contents of my horizon 
> > > > file 
> > is 
> > > > this:
> > > >  
> > > > # Horizon description file for Carte du Ciel
> > > > # 
> > > > # File format :
> > > > # Azimuth(integer) Altitude
> > > > #
> > > > # Be sure to begin at the North horizon (azimuth 0)
> > > > # Intermediate missing value are interpolated
> > > >  
> > > > 0 25
> > > > 5 24
> > > > 10 20
> > > > 15 16
> > > > 20 15
> > > > 25 20
> > > > 30 15
> > > > 35 10
> > > > 40 24
> > > > 45 24
> > > > 50 24
> > > > 55 24
> > > > 60 24
> > > > 65 24
> > > > 70 19
> > > > 75 5
> > > > 80 7
> > > > 85 5
> > > > 90 15
> > > > 95 15
> > > > 100 10
> > > > 105 10
> > > > 110 8
> > > > 115 8
> > > > 120 8
> > > > 125 10
> > > > 130 50
> > > > 135 50
> > > > 140 50
> > > > 145 50
> > > > 150 55
> > > > 155 60
> > > > 160 80
> > > > 165 80
> > > > 170 80
> > > > 175 80
> > > > 180 80
> > > > 185 80
> > > > 190 80
> > > > 195 80
> > > > 200 80
> > > > 205 80
> > > > 210 80
> > > > 215 80
> > > > 220 80
> > > > 225 80
> > > > 230 80
> > > > 235 80
> > > > 240 80
> > > > 245 80
> > > > 250 80
> > > > 255 80
> > > > 260 80
> > > > 265 80
> > > > 270 70
> > > > 275 64
> > > > 280 55
> > > > 285 45
> > > > 290 45
> > > > 295 45
> > > > 300 35
> > > > 305 40
> > > > 310 40
> > > > 315 34
> > > > 320 30
> > > > 325 35
> > > > 330 35
> > > > 335 35
> > > > 340 30
> > > > 345 30
> > > > 350 27
> > > > 355 27
> > > > The first number is how many degrees to the right you are looking and 
> > > > the 
> > second 
> > > > figure is how many degrees up do you have to look to clear your 
> > > > obstruction, 
> > 
> > > > hope that makes sense, its a handy tool, saves you going out to see 
> > something 
> > > > that is behind a building or mountain in your way!
> > > >  
> > > > Graham
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > > > "Write your own horizon file
> > > > You can write a file with a simple ASCII-editor like Wordpad or Vi to 
> > > > define 
> > 
> > > > your local horizon. As an example, you can open the file [installation 
> > > > directory]/data/horizon/horizon_Geneve.txt. As you can see from the 
> > > > file, 
> > the 
> > > > horizon is defined by a serie of records. Every line contains a pair of 
> > > > two 
> > > > values. The first value is the ‘azimuth’, the second is 
> > > > the 
> > ‘altitude’. The 
> > > > units are degrees, where azimuth 0° is North and 90° is the 
> > > > Zenith. A dot 
> > (.) 
> > > > can be used as a decimal separator. You can put comment in your horizon 
> > > > file 
> > by 
> > > > lines that start with a mesh (#) character."
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: luzius.thuerlemann 
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Sent: Wed, 23 December, 2009 11:33:44
> > > > Subject: [skychart-discussion] local horizon creation
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > Hi there,
> > > > 
> > > > I'd like to create my own local horizon visible from my home with 
> > > > mountains 
> > and 
> > > > valleys. Version 2.76c . Is that possible? I'd be happy also with a 
> > > > simple 
> > > > horizon line just that I see where my horizon lies.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks and CS
> > > > 
> > > > Luzius
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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