Hi item 7 the sound skeem that skype uses is useless I mean all these sound
files that sound the same.  Also what do these sounds have to do with
getting a file user goes on line etc.  where as a person walking in to a
room and a person leaving a room gives you an idea that they are available
on line or leaving not available off line.  The sound of a file cavenent
opening oh might give me the idea some one is sending a file verses some
meaningless space age sound.   
That is 7 as for item 4 doug winamp foobar Miranda a number of other
programs use this approach and it just is good design.  The hot keys should
be defined as available within skype and should show up in the menu as well
as they do in foobar.  I guess you are not going to agree with me on this
one but it just makes good scence.  I mean if you are going to have full
access to a program having a program with keyboard commands that can be used
threw the hole program just as the tool bar icons can just makes scence.
Also this is a feature that would make every sighted power users life real
useful.  


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lee
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:58 AM
To: skype english list
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] on access and skype again

I'm carrying this over from the marrie.org days because I didn't get
an answer sent out before we moved.

Jim, I agree with all but item 4 below.  Item 4 has been discussed
before, and I think the complexity is not outweighed by the
convenience.  I still can't reproduce item 1 though, and I don't
really understand what you want in item 7.  The rest should be
forwarded to Skype directly for action.  I'm forwarding the help
balloon and tab-control-in-tab-order suggestions to them myself.

On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 04:23:23AM -0800, jim grimsby Jr. wrote:
Ok ok it is time for me to  rant and for doug to sigh and say oh god jim is
at it again.  
Things that need to be done.  
1.  Take the links for events out or make it where when you use them skype
does not crash.  I can reproduce this on every system I got.  
2.  put the tab controls in the tab order. 
3.  a focusable tool bar in the skype chat so one can use the features of
the tool bar in the chat window.  This is mainly for thoughs who are not
using jaws.
 4. More hot keys and the option to have them active when the program has
focus or global.
5.  a check box in the installer program to turn on accessibility  features.
I mean having them in the menu is all well and good but if you can't access
the menu in the first place to turn them on tell they are turned on does not
do much good yes?  
6.  a new accessability option to use standard help balloons for alerts and
notafacations.  
This will allow all screen reader to inform you what is going on no more
need for skype watch.
7.  while not a major access issue but sound that kind of give you the user
an idea of what is going on!  Sounds that maybe the user can figure out
which one is wich.  
My thoughts for what they are worth.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:skypeenglish-bounces at marrie.org] On Behalf Of Doug Lee
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 3:30 AM
To: skype english list
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] What is the latest accessible version of Skype?

Be sure to check the two options in the Accessibility submenu of the
View menu before deciding whether Skype 3.6 is accessible. <grin>

The scripts help, mostly with chats I suppose, but are not absolutely
essential for using Skype 3.6.  The Skype team has done a lot of work
to make things accessible to users of all screen readers, not just
JAWS.

On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 09:19:41PM -0800, George Cassell wrote:

   What is the latest accessible version of Skype, and are scripts
   required or even recommended for it?



   I currently have Skype version 3.6.0.216 installed on my system, and
   find it to be only marginally accessible.



   -- George

thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access the scripts go to 
http://www.dlee.org/skype/
to access the tutorials and more visit 
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
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"The most exhausting thing in life is being insincere."
        - Anne Morrow Lindbergh {American Author}

thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access the scripts go to 
http://www.dlee.org/skype/
to access the tutorials and more visit 
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
Thanks

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thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access the scripts go to 
http://www.dlee.org/skype/
to access the tutorials and more visit 
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
Thanks

Skypeenglish mailing list
Skypeenglish at marrie.org
http://marrie.org/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_marrie.org

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Doug Lee                 dgl at dlee.org        
SSB BART Group           doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com
http://www.ssbbartgroup.com
"You must let me try, for a true soldier does not admit defeat before
the battle."
--Helen Keller (in a letter to the president of Radcliffe College)

Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the
latest version of skype go to 
http://www.dlee.org/skype
To access tutorials and other goodies go to
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
thanks and have a wonderful day.


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