I think Jack was saying he wonders why Samuel wants to stay with
Yahoo for an email account server, not why Sarah wants to stay with
Emissives, the SkypeEnglish mailing list server.  Emissives is
working fine as far as I can tell for this list.  The problem, so
it seems, is that Yahoo.com is categorically rejecting all email
from Emissives.com.  At least that's what it looks like from here.
I've actually examined the email headers of the bounce messages
Sarah, as list moderator, has been receiving; and they all say that
Yahoo is "temporarily" rejecting email from Emissive.com's IP address
"due to user complaints."  Usually, that means somebody figured out
a way to implicate an address or domain, Emissives.com in this case,
as if it were sending spam.  I suspect the problem was actually
caused by something totally unrelated to SkypeEnglish and that
Yahoo, automatically or perhaps manually, just blocked Emissives
to solve that problem, with the unexpected side effect of causing
a bunch of Yahoo users to lose their subscriptions to this list.
In any case, this a Yahoo issue, and one that Sarah is working with
both companies to resolve.  As we all know though, any issue requiring
cooperation between two large outfits tends not to get resolved
overnight.

I'm sorry there is so much list traffic about this issue.  I have
another interpretation of this fact though:  Perhaps it means there
are few if any larger problems to talk about at the moment.  As the
developer for the JAWS scripts for Skype, which scripts are best
discussed and supported on this list, I'll take that as a compliment.  :-)

On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 06:56:14AM -0600, Kay Malmquist wrote:
I would have to agree here.  This seems like a no brainer to me.  I just 
signed up for what I thought was a Skype list and all I have seen are 
grumblings about the list serve.  If it isn't working then move on.  Not 
quite what I expected to find from a list that has been bragged about so 
much.
Kay
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack Lowe" <[email protected]>
To: "skype english list" <skypeenglish at emissives.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 3:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] admin Re: Changed subscription addresse. 
Letmetest


I have a few groups through YahooGroups.  True you need sighted help to
set up the group because of the cappcha box.  So, is getting sighted
help for something that takes 2 minutes so hard to do?  I have a sighted
friend set it up.  I run things from there.
If this server is causing this many problems, then it seems that staying
with it is more of an annoyance than anything else.
The order of the day is convenience.
Jack
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Samuel Rodrigues" <[email protected]>
To: "skype english list" <skypeenglish at emissives.com>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] admin Re: Chaged subscription addresse. Let
metest


Yes, I am sure that yahoo doesn't work very well.
I dont know. I had yahoo use for some time, but all the group messages
from
different groups use to reach very late.
Even if I send a message to the group in the afternoon it would reach
late
night or in the morning.
I think it is the main problem with the server.
So since I have switched on to gmail account.
hth
Samuel.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sarah" <[email protected]>
To: "skype english list" <skypeenglish at emissives.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 1:15 AM
Subject: [Skypeenglish] admin Re: Changed subscription addresse. Let me
test


> It appears that Yahoois doign something screwy with this list. I have
> no
> idea why and I'm looking in to it.
> Sarah Alawami
> Check out my music page at
> http://music.marrie.org
> Thanks and have a wonderful day.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michele Barbi" <mbarbi at fastwebnet.it>
> To: "skype english list" <skypeenglish at emissives.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Changed subscription addresse. Let me test
>
>
> Thanks a lot friend! Now message comes nearly instantly, while with
> Yahoo
> came in delay of days!
> Mod, I need a clarification from you but I'll write it off list.
> Barbuz
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for
> the
> latest version of skype go to
> http://www.dlee.org/skype
> To access tutorials and other goodies go to
> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
> thanks and have a wonderful day.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Skypeenglish mailing list
> Skypeenglish at emissives.com
> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com
>
> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for
> the
> latest version of skype go to
> http://www.dlee.org/skype
> To access tutorials and other goodies go to
> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
> thanks and have a wonderful day.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Skypeenglish mailing list
> Skypeenglish at emissives.com
> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com


Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the
latest version of skype go to
http://www.dlee.org/skype
To access tutorials and other goodies go to
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
thanks and have a wonderful day.


_______________________________________________
Skypeenglish mailing list
Skypeenglish at emissives.com
http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com


Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the 
latest version of skype go to
http://www.dlee.org/skype
To access tutorials and other goodies go to
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
thanks and have a wonderful day.


_______________________________________________
Skypeenglish mailing list
Skypeenglish at emissives.com
http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com 



Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the latest 
version of skype go to 
http://www.dlee.org/skype
To access tutorials and other goodies go to
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
thanks and have a wonderful day.


_______________________________________________
Skypeenglish mailing list
Skypeenglish at emissives.com
http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com

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