I didn't say that it worked with all screen readers.  I only say it worked 
for me.  no need to get so defensive.

I'm a jaws user, so...
Chris.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sunshine" <[email protected]>
To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen accesssoftware." 
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.0 Beta Question


ok, chris, since you like it how do you use it with window eyes 6.1 then?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Gilland Desktop" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.0 Beta Question


Well, ok.  Again, I can understand where all of you are a bit concerned.
Let me start by saying I fully understand.  Not everyone is as advanced of a
computer user as others.  The other thing too, is I tend to like getting my
feet really wet at times if you know what I mean.  No, Ray, I dont'
literally mean my feet.  LOL!  Sorry, dude, couldn't resist.  Heheheheh.
An'n'n'ny, wayyyy, I dono, Ray.  It's hard to explain.  I don't really know
I could actually convince you.  I think it's just firstly, the knowing that
it's gonna become better over time.  The other thing is, I like how they
have consolidated the conversations into the same window as the contact
list.  The reason being, now, I don't have to worry about alt tabbing around
to find one window.  Ya know?  They're all just kind a right there and can
be switched between with very few commands.  The other thing too, I guess
that I like is the sound quality is a major! plus!  I called my friend
Maheen the other day on Skype beta, granted, he was still on 3.8, but in any
rate, I was on the 4 beta.  I could not believe! the sound quality.  It was
clear? as? Ay, bell!  Not that it wasn't before, but I mean this was breath
taking!  He only has a little mike built on the mother board of his Dell
Laditude, however, I swear to God!  It not quite, but all? frickin? most!
sounded like he was on a headset!  It blew me away!  Granted yeah, I got
really high end studio house P A head jvl house monitors, which I use on
this system, plus am running a really high end Boes sub woofer, but still,
O? mauigh!  Gawod!  I even plugged a set a walk man head phones into my
mixer, and even those cheap k, r, A, p, things, sounded shockingly good.  So
that is another thing I really love.  I also like the fact that if you're in
a video call with someone who has a web cam, not that this would matter to a
lotta you, but I have very very severely low vision, so for me I love it
when folks have web cams.  Anyway, it's in? cr'r'r'r'r'redibly! easy to now
switch from view video in window over to view in full screen.  I also have
found that remember how, in a Skype call, if you were in the main window,
and accidentally hit escape, what would happen?  Yeah!  You? gottit!
Ck'l'l'lick?  Yo0ur call would drop.  Well, they have removed that.  Now you
have! to go to the live window list, and application key on the person, and
hit end call.  The other thing is, if you're now in a conference, you can
mute your mike only to certain people.  In other words, let's say for sake
of example, you, I, and your mother are conferenced.  You need to tell your
mom something.  You don't mind me hearing her answer, however, you dont'
want me hearing waht you ask her.  You Then could mute your mike where
you're not muted for her, but you are for me.  So in other words, I can't
hear you, yet, she and others in the conference could.  The only real
drawbacks are that answerring, and hanging up are slgihtly tough in that the
hot keys don't work, however if you never use those anyway, then you're
fine.  Plus tabbing between controls sometimes crashes skype when a screen
reader's running.  Finally the fact the jaws cursor must be used to accept
file transfers.  Aside that though, it's quite good, and those issues are
both by Skype, and by Dug being addressed.  He already has said so, so, I'm
not concerned.

Take care.

Chris.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray Foret jr" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.0 Beta Question


Okay then.  Here's your big chance to convince us.  I'd really love to know
why you like it so much when everybody else seems to hate it so badly.
Usually, I'm one to try beta stuff too; so, if you think you can convince
me, give it your best.  I'm open to what ever you might have to suggest or
say about this.  I'm not being facetious; on the contrary, I'm genuinely
interested very much in what you have to say.  All I've seen for the past
two or three days is complaint after complaint.  Yours seem to bee the first
words I've seen in real support of this beta of Skype.  Thanks.

Sincerely,
The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
Phone:
985-360-3375
e-mail:
rforetjratcomcastdotnet
Skype Name:
barefootedray

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Gilland Desktop" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.0 Beta Question


Actually guys, it's not half as bad as a lotta you are making it sound.  I
run the four beta here and frankly?  I like it.  It's pretty neet.  Again,
that is just user opinion, but...

Chris.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Claypool" <[email protected]>
To: <demetry82 at googlemail.com>; "a list for discussing skype and its use
with screen accesssoftware." <skypeenglish at emissives.com>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.0 Beta Question


Hi,

they've rewritten skype 4 from the ground up, and so I'd advise going back
to skype 3.8 for now.

I normally love trying out new beta software, but my gut told me not to, and
from all I've heard, I'm glad I didn't move up.

Rick
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Demetry" <[email protected]>
To: <skypeenglish at emissives.com>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.0 Beta Question


> Hi,
>
> I'm a new member here. I like the skype. :)
> Since yesterday I installed for testing the newest Beta of Skype 4.0.
> This version works totally different to the previous version. Doug Lee's
> scripts for JAWS don't work longer. Has anyone also tested and
> experienced with this version?
>
> Demetry
>
>
> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the
> latest version of skype go to
> http://www.dlee.org/skype
> To access tutorials and other goodies go to
> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
> thanks and have a wonderful day.
>
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