Yes, I have in have seen this in Call burner; but, it's not very bad. In Call Graph, the lag is rather worse, or so I've seen thus far with the Skype test call. Thanks for pointing that out. Oh, I'd say that the echo is about one quarter second or so. However, Call Graph does have a feature to address this. It's call echo cancellation. It sounds like it works by lowering the level at which it records your side of the conversation. There also tends to be a kind of clicking sound with that feature on. Also, since we're discussing anomalies, I need to say one more thing. Call Graph actually lowers the level at which you hear your Skype calls; but, not JAWS. I'll have to take a further look and see if there's any way to work around this. There might be. I say this because the people who make Call Graph indicate that they are willing to make special custom versions of the program. I'd bet this is a good opportunity for us to get in on it while it's still in beta and suggest that the file format radio buttons be presented differently as well as the html window. Also, frankly, I'd like to be able to adjust the volume at which Call graph records; as it does seem to me to be a little on the low side. Perhaps we all could brain storm and come up with a list and then submit this to them. Thoughts?
Sincerely, The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray Phone: 985-360-3375 e-mail: rforetjratcomcastdotnet Skype Name: barefootedray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <[email protected]> To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen access software." <skypeenglish at emissives.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] and the winner is, Thanks very much, Ray, for posting that most informative review. In my limited experience with Call Burner, there is a synchronization issue between sent and received sound. For example, if I'm recording a conversation with a friend, and my friend makes a comment, my reaction to the comment in the recording tends to be earlier, in relation to the comment itself, than it was in reality. This can make for interesting anomalies in the recording, like a person starting to laugh at a joke just before the punch line has actually been finished. I'd be interested to know if anyone who has seen this in Call Burner could comment on whether the timing is any better in Call Graph. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 02:12:45PM -0500, Ray Foret jr wrote: Hi, Yesterday, on the Skype English list, I asked for a comparison between Call burner and Call Graph. Most of the very few of y'all who bothered to respond said that since I had paid for Call Burner, it really didn't matter which one I chose. Well, I now have my own answer having compared both programs. First, Call Graph does in fact work well with JAWS version 9. The installation was a snap and the interface is, for the most part, right where it needs to be in so far as accessibility is concerned. Once you've authorized it, and told Windows Firewall that you want Call Graph to have access to Windows, it's a snap to use. Call Graph rests in your system tray waiting for you to take control of it. When you press enter on Call Graph from the system tray, you'll see the usual context menu which opens up in such circumstances. To get to the configuration settings, just go down to where it says "configuration" and press enter on this. When you do this, you open up a multipage dialog box of the type with which you are already familiar. From this point, most everything is in tab order but for one interesting exception. When you are in the record tab, you must use the JAWS curser to locate the file format radio buttons. By default, Call Graph is set to record mp3 files, and, if that is in fact what you want, there's no need to go and change that. However, Call Graph does give you the ability to record in .wav format just as Call burner does. If you want to record in wav format, Just find the record in 16bit wav format in stereo and left click it once with the virtual left mouse button. That's all you need to do. IF you want to switch back to mp3, it's exactly the same process except you left click the .mp3 button. The only other place you need to use the JAWS curser is in the history. When you click on "history" from the context menu, you are placed in to an html window but you need to read and manipulate this window with the JAWS curser. It's really not that hard to manage. Okay, now for the really cool stuff. With Call Burner, if you wanted to record a Skype call in stereo, you need to record the separate parts of the call in and out. Then, you put both parts in to a sound editor and place one file in the left channel and the other file in the right then save the new combined file. With Call Graph, stereo recording is built in. Just select two channel from the record tab and you're good to go. Yes, that's right. Call Graph will automatically record your Skype calls in stereo. Your side is in the left channel and the skype side is in the right. Unlike Call Burner, there is not even a hint of distortion while recording a call. Well, that's just about it for now. Hey, not bad for free, I must say. They've really done a nice job with this one so far, and, I dare speculate that there's going to be a lot of blind Skype users just grabbing this one up for sure. Sincerely, The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray Phone: 985-360-3375 e-mail: rforetjratcomcastdotnet Skype Name: barefootedray Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access tutorials and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list Skypeenglish at emissives.com http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com -- Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com http://www.ssbbartgroup.com "It is difficult to produce a television documentary that is both incisive and probing when every twelve minutes one is interrupted by dancing rabbits singing about toilet paper." --Rod Serling Thanks for posting to the skype english list. 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