In Skype 4 beta I didn't like the fact they took away Skype me mode. As far as the scripts go I like the fact it now says signing in. Happy holidays to all. Keep up the good work Doug. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <skypeenglish at emissives.com> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:15 AM Subject: Skypeenglish Digest, Vol 12, Issue 28
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(Brandt Steenkamp) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:50:24 -0500 > From: "Richard Claypool" <bellevue.bat at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.0 beta3 Script Release > To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen > accesssoftware." <skypeenglish at emissives.com> > Message-ID: <9E0040F33A284AA3875B3BE13487E632 at PLAGUE> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I was sure that it still di? I'll check again. > > 02 A Scanner Darkly [stopped] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org> > To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen access software." > <skypeenglish at emissives.com> > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 2:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.0 beta3 Script Release > > >>I don't remember being able to change where the Skype installer puts >> things, but I haven't run a Skype 3.x or older installer in many >> months. When did we lose that? I thought Skype 3.8 did not allow >> that either. >> >> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:41:49PM -0500, Richard Claypool wrote: >> Hi doug, >> >> again, many thanks for your hard work and detication. Being the lazy >> bugger I am, I'll wait until they get the shortcut keys implimented. I >> don't know why they couldn't have popped them in, as it does make life >> sooooo much easier. >> >> I almost installed skype 4 to have a go at it, but that put me off. >> >> One thing of interest, why for did they not give one the ability as to >> where to install skype 4 as in previous versions? It sure makes thing a >> pain smile. >> >> Rick >> Various Artists - Sinead Lohan / Sailing By [stopped] >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org> >> To: <skypeenglish at emissives.com> >> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:59 AM >> Subject: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.0 beta3 Script Release >> >> >>>Here is the long-awaited, possibly anticipated (<silly grin>) script >>>release for Skype 4.0 beta3. I've been using these for a while, but >>>no one else has, so pardon any rough edges, and please report them >>>here. >>> >>>The direct URL for the Skype 4 beta scripts remains >>> >>>http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype4.php >>> >>>But they are also, at long last, accessible from my main Skype page, >>> >>>http://www.dlee.org/skype/ >>> >>>As usual, I have a few things to say about this release: >>> >>>First, the name of this release is 4b3a, not the likely expected 4b5. >>>This is explained in the release notes on my web site. >>> >>>My advice on who should try Skype 4 beta has changed a bit. Until >>>now, I have recommended that only the most daring should try this. >>>Now though, I recommend that anyone who wants to contribute to the >>>accessibility of the next major Skype release try it, as long as the >>>following warnings don't make this unwise for you. >>>To tantalize some of you, I'll point out that it appears to be >>>possible in Skype 4.0 beta 3 to add people to a conference even if >>>you're not the host! This feature, sometimes called "answer/join" by >>>fans of it from the Skype 2.0 days, has been absent for a very long >>>time. >>> >>>For anyone interested in trying Skype 4: >>> >>>1. Read my web site page about this script release, >>> >>>http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype4.php >>> >>>I am likely to update that page from time to time. Some of it may >>>already be slightly out of date in fact. I must stress, though, that >>>you could get some big surprises if you try installing these scripts >>>without first reading that page. >>> >>>2. Be aware that SkypeWatch is not supported in Skype 4 at this time. >>>More about this on the above page. I'm trying to get Skype to fix >>>this issue internally. >>> >>>3. Be prepared to return to Skype 3 if you need it for something >>>specific that is not in Skype 4. Sadly, this would include the hot >>>keys such as Alt+PageUp to answer calls, as these are still not >>>implemented in Skype 4. >>> >>>4. If all that didn't scare you off, grab the scripts from the URL I >>>gave earlier, grab Skype 4.0 beta 3 directly from skype.com or from >>>wherever you normally go, and give it all a whirl. >>> >>>5. Report any problems you have to this list and also on the Jira bug >>>reporting site for Skype, which is at >>> >>>https://developer.skype.com/jira/ >>> >>>I ask this so that Skype developers and management can see >>>the number of blind users who are trying to use their product. When >>>writing to Skype directly, keep in mind that they already know >>>accessibility is important. This is about showing them numbers of >>>people, as priorities are often affected by such numbers. In other >>>words, be nice, but you don't have to be quiet. :) >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org >>>SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >>>http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >>>"Innovation is hard to schedule." -- Dan Fylstra >>> >>>Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >>>latest version of skype go to >>>http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Skypeenglish mailing list >>>Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >> >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >> latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >> >> -- >> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org >> SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >> "Innovation is hard to schedule." -- Dan Fylstra >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >> latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:52:52 -0500 > From: "Richard Claypool" <bellevue.bat at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.0 beta3 Script Release > To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen > accesssoftware." <skypeenglish at emissives.com> > Message-ID: <3CF2836A99F14B439D1BAF969A4AB357 at PLAGUE> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > yeah, I always have the skype window minimized to the tray, so for me to > anser, I hgave to wait to hear who is calling, then bring skype out of the > system tray, then hit alt c for call then answer. where as, I just hit alt > page up, and wa la, whomever called is now live and living colour. > > I just wish there was a way to add someone into a conference that easily > smile > > > 02 A Scanner Darkly [stopped] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Toews on an Unspecified Input Device" <Bruce at ogts.net> > To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen access software." > <skypeenglish at emissives.com> > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.0 beta3 Script Release > > >> The nice thing about the hot keys is that they are global, so if someone >> calls you while you are in another program, you can answer without >> having to leave the program. No sense rumaging through menus if you >> don't have to. Like so many other things in Windows, it's good to have a >> choice. >> >> Bruce >> >> >> On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:42:54 -0800, "Portia" <pscott1989 at aol.com> said: >>> I have a friend who uses Skype, and doesn't use the shortcut keys. We >>> just use the regular keyboard navigation keys like Alt C for call and so >>> forth. >>> >>> Have a bright day, >>> >>> Portia. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Doug Lee <dgl at dlee.org> >>> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 11:05 AM >>> To: a list for discussing skype and its use with screen access software. >>> <skypeenglish at emissives.com> >>> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.0 beta3 Script Release >>> >>> I don't remember being able to change where the Skype installer puts >>> things, but I haven't run a Skype 3.x or older installer in many >>> months. When did we lose that? I thought Skype 3.8 did not allow >>> that either. >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:41:49PM -0500, Richard Claypool wrote: >>> Hi doug, >>> >>> again, many thanks for your hard work and detication. Being the lazy >>> bugger I am, I'll wait until they get the shortcut keys implimented. I >>> don't know why they couldn't have popped them in, as it does make life >>> sooooo much easier. >>> >>> I almost installed skype 4 to have a go at it, but that put me off. >>> >>> One thing of interest, why for did they not give one the ability as to >>> where to install skype 4 as in previous versions? It sure makes thing a >>> pain smile. >>> >>> Rick >>> Various Artists - Sinead Lohan / Sailing By [stopped] >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org> >>> To: <skypeenglish at emissives.com> >>> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:59 AM >>> Subject: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.0 beta3 Script Release >>> >>> >>> >Here is the long-awaited, possibly anticipated (<silly grin>) script >>> >release for Skype 4.0 beta3. I've been using these for a while, but >>> >no one else has, so pardon any rough edges, and please report them >>> >here. >>> > >>> >The direct URL for the Skype 4 beta scripts remains >>> > >>> >http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype4.php >>> > >>> >But they are also, at long last, accessible from my main Skype page, >>> > >>> >http://www.dlee.org/skype/ >>> > >>> >As usual, I have a few things to say about this release: >>> > >>> >First, the name of this release is 4b3a, not the likely expected 4b5. >>> >This is explained in the release notes on my web site. >>> > >>> >My advice on who should try Skype 4 beta has changed a bit. Until >>> >now, I have recommended that only the most daring should try this. >>> >Now though, I recommend that anyone who wants to contribute to the >>> >accessibility of the next major Skype release try it, as long as the >>> >following warnings don't make this unwise for you. >>> >To tantalize some of you, I'll point out that it appears to be >>> >possible in Skype 4.0 beta 3 to add people to a conference even if >>> >you're not the host! This feature, sometimes called "answer/join" by >>> >fans of it from the Skype 2.0 days, has been absent for a very long >>> >time. >>> > >>> >For anyone interested in trying Skype 4: >>> > >>> >1. Read my web site page about this script release, >>> > >>> >http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype4.php >>> > >>> >I am likely to update that page from time to time. Some of it may >>> >already be slightly out of date in fact. I must stress, though, that >>> >you could get some big surprises if you try installing these scripts >>> >without first reading that page. >>> > >>> >2. Be aware that SkypeWatch is not supported in Skype 4 at this time. >>> >More about this on the above page. I'm trying to get Skype to fix >>> >this issue internally. >>> > >>> >3. Be prepared to return to Skype 3 if you need it for something >>> >specific that is not in Skype 4. Sadly, this would include the hot >>> >keys such as Alt+PageUp to answer calls, as these are still not >>> >implemented in Skype 4. >>> > >>> >4. If all that didn't scare you off, grab the scripts from the URL I >>> >gave earlier, grab Skype 4.0 beta 3 directly from skype.com or from >>> >wherever you normally go, and give it all a whirl. >>> > >>> >5. Report any problems you have to this list and also on the Jira bug >>> >reporting site for Skype, which is at >>> > >>> >https://developer.skype.com/jira/ >>> > >>> >I ask this so that Skype developers and management can see >>> >the number of blind users who are trying to use their product. When >>> >writing to Skype directly, keep in mind that they already know >>> >accessibility is important. This is about showing them numbers of >>> >people, as priorities are often affected by such numbers. In other >>> >words, be nice, but you don't have to be quiet. :) >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >-- >>> >Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org >>> >SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >>> >http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >>> >"Innovation is hard to schedule." -- Dan Fylstra >>> > >>> >Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >>> >latest version of skype go to >>> >http://www.dlee.org/skype >>> >To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>> >http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>> >thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> > >>> > >>> >_______________________________________________ >>> >Skypeenglish mailing list >>> >Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>> >http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>> >>> >>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >>> latest version of skype go to >>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>> >>> -- >>> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org >>> SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >>> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >>> "Innovation is hard to schedule." -- Dan Fylstra >>> >>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >>> latest version of skype go to >>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>> >>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >>> latest version of skype go to >>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >> -- >> Bruce Toews >> dogriver at ogts.net >> >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >> latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:56:27 -0500 > From: "Richard Claypool" <bellevue.bat at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] A few questions about the new Beta > To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen > accesssoftware." <skypeenglish at emissives.com> > Message-ID: <A2A5630325964200A11BD7F7B6A3352B at PLAGUE> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > that is truly a pain. it's so nice to be able to move up and down the > contacts, and since some place honour daylight saving's time and others do > not, it makes things easier. some of my friends moved from 14 hours ahead > to 16 hours ahead, and seeing their time at a glance made it easy not to > commit social blunders. > > 02 A Scanner Darkly [stopped] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org> > To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen access software." > <skypeenglish at emissives.com> > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] A few questions about the new Beta > > >> To read the time at a contact's location, select that person's entry, >> and use Ctrl+6 to read the profile area. If you use Compact view, use >> Ctrl+6 in the chat window opened by your selecting the contact. The >> contact's time is no longer displayed anywhere else as far as I know. >> >> As for unselecting a contact, just select another one. I'm not sure >> if you can unselect one without selecting someone else. >> >> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 04:37:52PM -0500, Jeffrey Shockley, Windows >> Desktop Edition wrote: >> Hi, >> I've got a couple questions about the new beta. >> 1. How do I unselect someone in the Contact list? I forgot how. I press >> space and they're selected. >> 2. Is there any way to get the person's time like you could with the >> back in the old scripts for the beta? I know there was a hotkey for it, >> but I forgot what it was since I just installed the newest beta again. >> TIA >> >> -- >> Jeffrey Shockley >> E-Mail: >> jawswizard at ec.rr.com, >> jawswizard at aim.com, >> jawswizard at gmail.com, >> jshockley at fastmail.net >> MSN: >> jeffreyshockley at hotmail.com >> Yahoo: >> jawswizard at yahoo.com >> Google Talk: >> jawswizard at gmail.com >> AIM: >> jawswizard >> Skype: >> jawswizard >> >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >> latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >> >> -- >> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org >> SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >> "Sometimes I think my learning curve is a circle." -- David Andrews >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >> latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:10:48 +0200 > From: "Brandt Steenkamp" <brandt at mtuba.co.za> > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Nead help with my Skype Phone. > To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen > accesssoftware." <skypeenglish at emissives.com> > Message-ID: <80F8C9EE5C6740DE9887B5616850677E at brandt06c6bb77> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > Hi again. > > I bought the thing from Incredible Connection, a chane store here in South > Africa. > > I probably wouldn't have bought it if I was fealing well, but there you have > it. Buying skypePhones when ill ain't a good idea. > > Regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Green" <wa4ihi at bellsouth.net> > To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen accesssoftware." > <skypeenglish at emissives.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 1:10 AM > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Nead help with my Skype Phone. > > >> Hi, Where did you purchase this phone and is it the only skype phone or >> there more? I am just curious! Thanks. Larry and Pam >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brandt Steenkamp" <brandt at mtuba.co.za> >> To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen accesssoftware." >> <skypeenglish at emissives.com> >> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:23 AM >> Subject: [Skypeenglish] Nead help with my Skype Phone. >> >> >>> Hi there folks. >>> >>> I bought myself an RTX3058 SkypePhone. Unfortunatly it sceems as if it >>> doesn't come with any driver CD, and I cannot find a driver on the >>> Internet. >>> >>> Please, help me if you can. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007 >>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >>> latest version of skype go to >>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >> >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >> latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > Skypeenglish at emissives.com > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > End of Skypeenglish Digest, Vol 12, Issue 28 > ********************************************
