yeh that will be interesting to know if that can be done the same way with scrips
chat soon hannah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare Page" <[email protected]> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Important! Information on theSkype4.1"Screen Reader Not Detected" Problem > Hi! > Thanks, Doug, for explaining how to delete items from the conversations > list in Skype without scripts. But will those instructions work with > scripts? I use Skype 4.1 Beta with revision 41A of the JAWS scripts. > If the method of deleting items from the conversations list is different > when we have scripts, please let us know, just in case I or anyone else > wants to do that with Skype 4.1. > Bye for now! >>From Clare > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org> > To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 6:18 AM > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Important! Information on the Skype4.1"Screen > Reader Not Detected" Problem > > >> >> The Delete key will delete entries from that list, but you have to >> select one or more entries to delete first. I know this is unusual >> for a list, because usually just arrowing through a list will select >> entries. In Skype, the selected entry is the one shown in the Skype >> window, at least in Default view. If Skype selected an entry every >> time you hit an arrow key, navigation through that list would be very >> slow. >> >> So if you're not using scripts, delete a Conversation, or Inbox, entry >> by pressing Space to select it, then Del to get rid of it. >> >> On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 12:11:39AM -0400, jason wrote: >>> Oh ok I understand what you mean, but they shouldn't still keep showing >>> after you hit the delete key and removed them. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Jason known as Blind Fury >>> windowslive contact kb3icc at msn.com >>> skype contact kb3icc >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org> >>> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:00 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Important! Information on the Skype >>> 4.1"Screen Reader Not Detected" Problem >>> >>> >>>> Keep in mind that "history" and "conversation list" are two different >>>> things. The History page, which is accessed by Ctrl+8 with scripts >>>> running and Alt+3 otherwise, is what's managed by the Keep History For >>>> option. >>>> >>>> The conversation list, accessed by Ctrl+2 with scripts or Alt+2 >>>> without, is sort of like an inbox. Just as with an inbox, things >>>> never leave that list until you delete them yourself. You will only >>>> see one entry for any one person in that list though. >>>> >>>> A concrete example: I send you a chat line, a voicemail, a call, and >>>> a file, then Joe sends you a file and a chat line. In Skype 3.8, that >>>> would be six events. In Skype 4.1, that would be six History list >>>> entries, but you said not to keep history, so you might not see >>>> anything in that list. But in Skype 4.1, you still will get two, not >>>> six but two, entries in your Conversation list, or Inbox: one for me, >>>> and one for Joe. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:42:33PM -0400, jason wrote: >>>>> another problem is deleting history. We should have the ability to >>>>> delete our history if we don't want to keep it. I have my options set >>>>> to >>>>> never keep history and clear cookies but every time I log on to skype, >>>>> it >>>>> keeps bringing old conversations up in to my list which those happened >>>>> a >>>>> week ago. It says that it is supposed to clear history and ookies on >>>>> exit. That is one of the choices in the options menu. I hope there >>>>> is a >>>>> solution that we can get rid of all of the history, because you can do >>>>> that in 3.8. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Jason known as Blind Fury >>>>> windowslive contact kb3icc at msn.com >>>>> skype contact kb3icc >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org> >>>>> To: <skypeenglish at emissives.com>; <gui-talk at nfbnet.org> >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:54 PM >>>>> Subject: [Skypeenglish] Important! Information on the Skype 4.1 >>>>> "Screen >>>>> Reader Not Detected" Problem >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I doubt this happens to very many people, but I have already noticed >>>>>> that it has happened to some, and the problem is serious enough in >>>>>> its >>>>>> effects to warrant the "Important!" subject line attention-getter. >>>>>> >>>>>> Note that this only applies to users of Skype 4.1 beta, the one >>>>>> released in May of 2009. If you run Skype 3.8 or Skype 4.0, you >>>>>> should not see the problem discussed below. >>>>>> >>>>>> The following information may apply to you if you have ever been >>>>>> running Skype 4.1 beta, released in May of 2009, and encountered any >>>>>> of the following: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Inability to arrow through the contact list, the conversation >>>>>> list, >>>>>> or any other Skype list control. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. JAWS reading huge volumes of information on arrow keys or tab, >>>>>> such as most or all of one of those lists. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. Alt+numbers and Alt+arrows in a conversation window saying "Not in >>>>>> a chat window" even though you really are in one. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. For BX users, BX saying "unknown object" for a great many portions >>>>>> of Skype's interface. >>>>>> >>>>>> Causes of the above problems include doing any of the following >>>>>> things while Skype 4.1 beta is running: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Unloading and reloading JAWS. (This may cause the problem but >>>>>> does >>>>>> not always do so.) >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Changing to a different JAWS version by unloading one and then >>>>>> loading another. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. Running Microsoft Narrator and then closing it while Skype is >>>>>> still running. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. Playing with another screen reader and shutting it down while >>>>>> Skype >>>>>> is running. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you never do any of those things, you should never run into this >>>>>> problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have written up a detailed description of this issue, including >>>>>> what >>>>>> to do about it if you encounter it, at my web site, >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype/ >>>>>> >>>>>> The direct URL to the information page for this issue is >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype/sr_not_detected.php >>>>>> >>>>>> In summary, the above user actions can cause this Skype 4.1 beta to >>>>>> lose track of the fact that a screen reader is running, which in turn >>>>>> causes it to stop providing all accessibility information until it is >>>>>> restarted. Future Skype 4 releases are expected to improve >>>>>> significantly on this situation. The Skype developers and management >>>>>> are aware of this problem. It escaped notice during the testing of >>>>>> the Skype 4.1 beta release because unloading and reloading a screen >>>>>> reader is not a regular enough occurrence to have come to mind as a >>>>>> necessary part of the testing process, either for them or for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org >>>>>> SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >>>>>> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >>>>>> "I before E, except after C, or when sounded like A, as in neighbor >>>>>> and weigh, except for when weird foreign concierges seize neither >>>>>> leisure nor science from the height of society." >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>>>> the latest version of skype go to >>>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>>> the latest version of skype go to >>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org >>>> http://www.dlee.org >>>> SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >>>> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >>>> No one alive is beyond hope; every second of life is a chance. >>>> (08/29/02) >>>> >>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>> the latest version of skype go to >>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>> >>> >>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >>> latest version of skype go to >>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >> >> -- >> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org >> SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >> latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >> > > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > To access tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > Skypeenglish at emissives.com > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com
