Hi, David! When you put it this way guess it' necesary to explain a few things. I could use a line or two to count all of the chat software and protocols, but i won't, let's suppose that you and rest of the people on the list know at least three of them. And guess what? ALL of them has built in emoticons, most of them has emoticon packs you can download from the net. And what does it tell you? OK, I agree, everyone is in title is to have personal preferences and opinion, but somehow I think this kind of thinking is in minor opposite to whole Internet community. Personally, I'd survive not to have and use emoticons, but, I really get crazy sometimes when i chat on ICQ and Jaws talks "Graphic 453" in the end of every chat message. It is annoying when the same thing happens on Skype, and when I disable displaying of graphic emoticons, than I get "colon right parent", "colon left parent" etc. So, let's recapitulate on this. Emoticons are there no matter if we like it or not, and since they are there, I believe that is correct that a blind person can use their benefit if he or she wants to. Another thing about "stealing" MSN's or some other dictionary file. I can do it for myself, and i can use it, but, if person I'm chatting with doesn't have it stolen, I can try to express my feelings with emoticons all day long, and person on the other side will not be aware of it. That is the one more reason to have a dictionary file, with the option to use it or not, of course. I also agree that automating Skype Watch is priority, so I won't bother on this one, but please, try not to push your thinking and opinion this way. I can remember that somebody few weeks ago also told that he doesn't use Skype Watch and that he doesn't have any need for it, so if we make a parallel, why should anybody else use it? Scripts are usually written to assist us to get the most from some program and I believe that making access to possibilities should be from the objective point of view., don't you think so?
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Allen" <wd8ldy at ihug.co.nz> To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen accesssoftware." <skypeenglish at emissives.com> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Script Dictionary > Hi Doug and list! > > I like the idea of having the installer optionally adjust the dictionary. > I would choose not to do it in my case because I believe emoticons are > stupid, and demonstrates one of the many ways written language standards > have been permitted to deteriate. I recognise though that Gordan has the > opposite view and the functionality should be available for him to take > advantage if he chooses. Alternatively, I suppose you could put a note on > the scripts page that describes the simple but effective adjustment Gordan > has made, but then those who may want it wouldn't find it any more than > they find the instructions for installing SkypeWatch. That information is > clearly there, but there is none so blind as he/she who *will not see! > > Cheers, > Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Doug Lee > To: a list for discussing skype and its use with screen access software. > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Script Dictionary > > > I guess I'll open a discussion on this one. The main reason I haven't > done this yet, other than time, is that what to translate with a JAWS > dictionary is something of a matter of opinion, and opinions vary. > For example, I personally do not want "btw" translated to "by the > way"; I want to know what a person actually typed. If I add Skype.jdf > to the file set, everyone's personal Skype dictionary will be wiped > out and replaed on every script update. My inclination, because of > this, would be rather to post directions on how to do what you did. > The installer could be made to do that too I expect, giving the user > the option to do it or not to do it. > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:06:55AM +0200, Gordan Radic wrote: > Hello all, Doug's attention required:)! > > Using the last three or four script revisions, I really missed speaking > smileys, acronims and some things similar to them. I often use smileys in > chats, not to mention phrases like BTW, CU etc, so, since there was no > dictionary in scripts, I "stole" MSN .jdf file and renamed it to > "skype.jdf". > This funtions perfectly, as long as you disable graphic presentation of > emoticons in Skype, much like you do in MSN. > And now, what was I going to say? > Doug, can you make an original Skype dictionary file for the next rev of > scripts? I really find it very useful, and if you adjust some existing > dictionary as I did with MSN's you won't lose much time, and I (and > hopefully lot of other people) will be really grateful. > Thanks for listening! > > Regards > G > > MSN: zarakijel at gmail.com > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > To access tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > Skypeenglish at emissives.com > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > -- > Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org > SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com > http://www.ssbbartgroup.com > "Is your cucumber bitter? Throw it away. Are there briars in your > path? Turn aside. That is enough. Do not go on to say, `Why were > things of this sort ever brought into the world?'" > --Marcus Aurelius > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > To access tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > Skypeenglish at emissives.com > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > To access tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > Skypeenglish at emissives.com > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com
