it's trew though! Sarah: will you do the honers please?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Hernandez" <[email protected]
To: "'screen access software with skype'"
<[email protected]
Date sent: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:50:27 -0500
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] The Reasoning Behind41 and Skype
Interphaseandfeature changes
Are you a moderator?
Tony Hernandez
http://tonyspeaks.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geovanni
Bahena
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:52 AM
To: 'screen access software with skype'
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] The Reasoning Behind 41 and Skype
Interphaseandfeature changes
I feel this is turning out to be a compitision of skype 3.8 and
4.1. From
what I understand, that is not what this list is for. This list
is to help
with the use of skype no matter what version anyone is using.
Sorry for my
roodness, but that is just how I feel.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Stephanie Smeader
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 7:01 AM
To: screen access software with skype
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] The Reasoning Behind 41 and Skype
Interphaseandfeature changes
Yeah I totally agree with you there!
Why change something like skype 3.8.188 which is totally
accessible to all
screenreaders and then decide to change it?
that's absolutely stupid and rediculus!
If the skype developers want to change things around they should
think of
people who sometimes find their upgrades inaccesssible because
they don't
think of how we use skype and so I say that the developers should
try using
their latest version of skype with thir eyes closed!
Then maybe they'll get the drift!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nikos Demetriou" <[email protected]
To: "'screen access software with skype'"
<[email protected]
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] The Reasoning Behind 41 and Skype
Interphaseandfeature changes
Hi Doug.
I agree skype 4.1 is very accessible and usable with jaws and
your
scripts.
You did a very good job and I think in some kaces you did
skype's job for
them.
Skype clames that it is accessible but how can it be accessible
if it
works
with some screen readers and it doesn't work with others?
With nvda for example when you right click a contact the menus
don't
speak.
I think if a developer made its software trully accessible it
wouldn't
matter if you used it with jaws or narator. It would still work
fine.
But for now I can tell you atleast two screen readers where
skype 4.1 has
problems. These are nvda and hal.
So skype 3.8 needs to be there for us who don't use jaws as a
primary
screen
reader.
As I said I think you are doing a great job and I think it is
skype that
doesn't do things right and not you. Skype 3.8 was really
accessible with
all screen readers and they shouldn't change it.
Nikos
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doug
Lee
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 6:48 PM
To: JardataMailServices; screen access software with skype
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] The Reasoning Behind 41 and Skype
Interphase
andfeature changes
I honestly don't think Skype 4.1 is harder to use, just
different.
Skype 3.8 still works in many places but is no longer supported
with
updates
to scripts or Skype itself. I therefore consider Skype 3.8 an
emergency
backup plan more than a current alternative.
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:43:10AM -0800, JardataMailServices
wrote:
Hello List!
You know, I have no problem with Skype changing their interphase
and/or
features; however, I am not yet convinced that they have made
the program
better for its blind users. For example, all I do with Skype is
make
contact calls and/or phone calls; use the history feature to do
the same
kind of thing; and send tons of text/sms messages. 41 makes
these simple
tasks more difficult and unnecessarily difficult. Skype is fast
making
this
product unusable for Blind people. I find this to be the case
in many
products of today: companies have great accessible products and,
for some
reason, they mess it up. Skype can improve their product
without totally
changing the interphase or making it so difficult and complex to
use.
Anyway, I have gone back to Skype 41 for another try, but will
abandon it
totally if I am convinced 38 works in W7 and will continue to
work in W7
for
the distant feature. If I have to use 41, I will, but I hope it
will
continue to improve and not continue to become more unusable.
I like Skype and use it a lot, so I am hoping it will be useful
for me in
the feature.
Take care everyone and have a nice day.
James Robinson&
Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access
scripts for the
latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To
access
tutorials
and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
To contact the list owner send a message to
mailto:[email protected]
to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws
users, go to
this link.
http://bit.ly/1XIpzq
and for a searchable archives page go here.
http://bit.ly/64Y48
thanks and have a wonderful day.
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"Believe, when you are most unhappy, that there is something for
you to do
in the world. So long as you can sweeten another's pain, life
is not in
vain." --Helen Keller
Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access
scripts for the
latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To
access
tutorials
and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
To contact the list owner send a message to
mailto:[email protected]
to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws
users, go to
this link.
http://bit.ly/1XIpzq
and for a searchable archives page go here.
http://bit.ly/64Y48
thanks and have a wonderful day.
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Skypeenglish mailing list
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Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access
scripts for the
latest version of skype go to
http://www.dlee.org/skype
To access tutorials and other goodies go to
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
To contact the list owner send a message to
mailto:[email protected]
to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws
users, go to
this link.
http://bit.ly/1XIpzq
and for a searchable archives page go here.
http://bit.ly/64Y48
thanks and have a wonderful day.
_______________________________________________
Skypeenglish mailing list
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Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts
for the
latest version of skype go to
http://www.dlee.org/skype
To access tutorials and other goodies go to
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
To contact the list owner send a message to
mailto:[email protected]
to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws
users, go to
this link.
http://bit.ly/1XIpzq
and for a searchable archives page go here.
http://bit.ly/64Y48
thanks and have a wonderful day.
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Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts
for the
latest version of skype go to
http://www.dlee.org/skype
To access tutorials and other goodies go to
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
To contact the list owner send a message to
mailto:[email protected]
to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws
users, go to
this link.
http://bit.ly/1XIpzq
and for a searchable archives page go here.
http://bit.ly/64Y48
thanks and have a wonderful day.
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database 4611 (20091116) __________
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Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts
for the latest version of skype go to
http://www.dlee.org/skype
To access tutorials and other goodies go to
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
To contact the list owner send a message to
mailto:[email protected]
to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws
users, go to this link.
http://bit.ly/1XIpzq
and for a searchable archives page go here.
http://bit.ly/64Y48
thanks and have a wonderful day.
_______________________________________________
Skypeenglish mailing list
[email protected]
http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com
Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest
version of skype go to
http://www.dlee.org/skype
To access tutorials and other goodies go to
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
To contact the list owner send a message to
mailto:[email protected]
to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, go to this
link.
http://bit.ly/1XIpzq
and for a searchable archives page go here.
http://bit.ly/64Y48
thanks and have a wonderful day.
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