This is a pretty technical reply to Hrvoje, so any non-techie people
out there don't worry if it makes no sense. :)

Skype4Py development seems to have stalled, and my various and
multi-method attempts to contact the author have failed.

You might want to compare the Skype4Py you have to the one in Clisk
though, because I believe I fixed a minor issue or two in Skype4Py
myself.  I worked around most Skype4Py issues in Clisk though, such as
the fact that Skype4Py overzealously caches non-local conference
participant info, so that if a participant holds the call, the Skype
API would tell you but the Skype4Py interface would not.  I have also
seen that on Mac Skype 2.8, you can get into a situation where things
like oCall.Hold() raises an "invalid call Id" error even though a
direct Skype API command like "SET CALL <id> STATUS ONHOLD" will
succeed.  This one is probably the Skype API's fault though, because
in all my tests, the direct Skype API command "ALTER CALL <id> HOLD"
will also fail with the same "invalid call Id" message.  Curiouser and
curiouser, as they say...

On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 02:19:29PM +0200, Hrvoje Kati?? wrote:
Hello,

Well, I am using Skype4Py like Clisc does, since SKT is also written
in Python. I've downloaded Skype4Py from it's SVN repository, but it's
last modified at the end of 2009, so I am wondering if they stopped
improving it or not, or they just moved to a different versioning
system or repository location.

Hrvoje


On 4.5.2010 11:51, Doug Lee wrote:
>This is a common myth, that you can't re-add participants in a Skype 4
>conference.  Directions were just posted on how to do it, but I want
>to add that the reason there is such confusion is that the way of
>re-adding people in Skype 4 changed from Skype 3 due to the way in
>which conferences themselves changed.  When you "drop" out of a Skype
>4 conference, you really don't "leave" it; you simply lose the voice
>part of the conversation.  You remain in the text part, along with
>everyone else.  Re-adding someone, then, is not actually like a new
>call; it's more like a Reconnect.  For the host, there's a Call button
>beside everyone in the conference who does not have a voice connection,
>and an End Call button beside everyone that does have a voice connection.
>
>A couple other new features of Skype 4 conferences are the Call Group
>button and the Join button.  Call Group shows up if the conference's
>voice part is no longer active, and it calls everyone in the group at
>once.  Join shows up when you are not the host and you lost or dropped
>your voice connection, and it reconnects you to the conference without
>the host having to answer your call.  That, of course, is very handy
>when someone has a rough Internet connection and needs to reconnect
>often without disrupting everyone.
>
>Finally, a note mostly to Hrvoje but also to anyone else who plays
>with the Skype API:  The documented ways of building conferences using
>the Skype API do not make Skype 4 style conferences, unfortunately.
>This means that if you use the API to make a conference, participants
>will not have the Join or Call Group buttons or even a text window for
>the whole group at all.  If anyone figures out how to make the API
>build a fully functional Skype 4 conference, I'm all ears.  It may be
>possible, but it appears not to be documented.  I would like to make
>Clisk do it someday, but I have more pressing things to accomplish. :)
>
>On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 08:28:09AM +0200, Hrvoje Kati?? wrote:
>That's the main problem of Skype 4.X. Dropped participants may not be
>readded, unless you recreate the whole conference.
>
>
>On 4.5.2010 2:58, Portia Scott wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>I am using Skype with Nvda. When someone calls, and you were in a conference 
>>with them and the other person, how do you find the call button in the 
>>participant list to add them back if they drop with Nvda? Using Skype 4.2.
>>
>>Tia,
>>
>>Portia.
>>Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the 
>>latest version of skype go to
>>http://www.dlee.org/skype
>>To access tutorials and other goodies go to
>>http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
>>
>>
>>To contact the list owner send a message to
>>mailto:[email protected]
>>
>>to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch  go to this 
>>link.
>>http://www.hrvojekatic.tk/
>>
>>and for a searchable archives page go here.
>>http://bit.ly/64Y48
>>
>>thanks and have a wonderful day.
>>
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>
>Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the 
>latest version of skype go to
>http://www.dlee.org/skype
>To access tutorials and other goodies go to
>http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
>
>
>To contact the list owner send a message to
>mailto:[email protected]
>
>to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch  go to this link.
>http://www.hrvojekatic.tk/
>
>and for a searchable archives page go here.
>http://bit.ly/64Y48
>
>thanks and have a wonderful day.
>
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Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the latest 
version of skype go to
http://www.dlee.org/skype
To access tutorials and other goodies go to
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html


To contact the list owner send a message to
mailto:[email protected]

to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch  go to this link.
http://www.hrvojekatic.tk/

and for a searchable archives page go here.
http://bit.ly/64Y48

thanks and have a wonderful day.


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Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the latest 
version of skype go to
http://www.dlee.org/skype
To access tutorials and other goodies go to
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html


To contact the list owner send a message to
mailto:[email protected]

to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch  go to this link.
http://www.hrvojekatic.tk/

and for a searchable archives page go here.
http://bit.ly/64Y48

thanks and have a wonderful day.


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