My apologies. I sent it to the wrong address. Sorry about this mistake. I didn't intend it to send this message to this list.
Best Luis Luis Eduardo Peña Psicólogo clínico Clínica Farallones Calle 9C # 50-25 Consultorio 1108 Cali, Colombia Teléfono: (572) 487-8084 Teléfono celular: 311-308-8073 www.misicologo.com [email protected] Skype: luiseduardopena -----Original Message----- From: Skypeenglish [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 8:43 AM To: screen readers' access with skype. Subject: [Skypeenglish] admin: thread closed! Re: What happened to your podcasts? This is off topic for this list. Read the welcome message you got when you subscribed. if you have not taken the time to read it, everyone who did not, read the rules of order for this list. Thanks. On Aug 27, 2013, at 1:25 PM, Luis Eduardo Peña <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Brian, it's has been a long time since you don't publish new podcasts. > The latest one was about using j-tools from the keyboard. This was > back in June. I wonder if you changed the rss feed so for this reason > I can't get your new podcasts, or simply you have been very busy. > > Thanks. > > Luis Eduardo Peña > Psicólogo clínico > Clínica Farallones > Calle 9C # 50-25 > Consultorio 1108 > Cali, Colombia > > Teléfono: (572) 487-8084 > Teléfono celular: 311-308-8073 > > www.misicologo.com > [email protected] > Skype: luiseduardopena > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Skypeenglish [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Brian Hartgen > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:29 AM > To: 'screen readers' access with skype.' > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] unable to install Skype scripts jfw-skr60a > > Hi Luis and others > > Thanks to those people who would like to use J-Tools, and I apologise > for my late response to this one but I've been working on other projects. > > When as a company we made the decision to give the product to the > visually impaired community, I discovered there was going to be a > conflict with the Skype scripts fairly early on and as Doug said, I > approached him with a view to working out a way forward. At the same > time, I approached Freedom Scientific, not the conventional Tech > Support department, but programmers who are on the JAWS development > side who were very clear about what it was we wanted to do and gave us > advice accordingly. As has been pointed out, the issue of the interception of default jaws functionality is a thorny one. > > While the conflict with the Skype scripts is very regrettable, we did > follow that advice we were given to the letter with the end result > being that everything on the J-Tools side works as expected. This > project is, in fact, at an end because there are many other things we > need to be working on. It was donated to the community as there will be no further updates. > > Having said all of that, if there is something we can do quickly in > order to ensure the products can coexist, I am very willing indeed to > pursue this with Doug, off list and when our mutual schedules allow, > so we can work out some kind of resolution. I would be extremely glad to do so. > > I hope that clarifies where we are. > > Regards: > > Brian > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Skypeenglish [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Doug Lee > Sent: 23 May 2013 17:06 > To: screen readers' access with skype. > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] unable to install Skype scripts jfw-skr60a > > I'll save that URL but can't do a lot with it for the moment as I'm at > a contract site working on another project. I would want the source to > the installer though, or a description of what it does. > I probably should not try to run it on this system during the project > I'm working on, and I don't have another system or VM handy to use for this. > > It might actually be enough if you sent me your default.jss as it now > stands. > > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:55:37AM -0500, Luis Eduardo Pe?a wrote: > Thanks doug for such a detailed explanation. You may download the > j-tools scripts from the following address: > http://www.astec-at.co.uk/j-tools/6.0/J-Tools.EXE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Skypeenglish [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Doug Lee > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:17 AM > To: screen readers' access with skype. > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] unable to install Skype scripts jfw-skr60a > > I attempted to work with Brian on the JTools installer a while back > but did not get consensus with him on how to handle the situation. At > this time, not having JTools myself, I don't know how his installer > works. I set up mine to allow any number of conforming installers to > share a single set of scripts (default.jss in this case), and I > actively encourage others to use the same strategy so this issue need > not arise. The strategy I use works very similarly to device driver chaining, and for the same reasons. > > I may have misunderstood Brian's description of his installer back > then, but my understanding at the time was that he wanted a custom > default.jss in place that contained actual code, as opposed to just > loading other script files containing actual code. The problem with > this is that only one script set can safely do that, and generally the > last one to be installed. This restriction is not present in the > approach I have been using for several years. If I misunderstood Brian here, I apologize and welcome dialog. > > Brian's podcast recommends that users remove third-party scripts, such > as the Skype scripts, then install the JTools scripts, and finally > reinstall third-party scripts. I'm not sure if he subsequently updated > his installer to permit this approach to coexist with mine, and the "out of memory" > message you got when running my installer does not tell me the answer > to this yet. > > Due to the increasing number of people writing scripts that modify > default.jss and share other script files, another example being > Internet Explorer scripts for specific web sites, I am now publicly > adopting the policy of insisting that people who wish to share the > interception of a set of scripts do so in a way that allows others to > do the same, without one script set having to know how another one > works. My Skype and BX scripts are prime examples of a way to do this, > and the BX installer actually makes visible the VBScript code I use to > do much of the grunt work for this approach. (That code even supports > prioritization of script sets, but so far I have never seen the need > to use that feature.) > > My recommendation, then, would be a discussion with Brian on how we > can make the JTools installer coexist happily in an environment where > other script sets that do not know about JTools also intercept default.jss. > > As an aside, Brian's podcast also asserts that he is using a method > supported by Freedom Scientific tech support. I don't doubt this, but > as I told him in email back when we discussed this, we are both doing > things beyond that expected or even officially supported by FS tech > support personnel. The approval stamp of FS tech support is, in my > mind at least, therefore not equivalent to a statement of best > practice. :-) > > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 09:53:37AM -0500, Luis Eduardo Pe?a wrote: > Hi Doug, > > Although I was able to install the skype scripts, skype watch is > disabled. I think as somebody else pointed out in this tread, j-tools > disables this feature of your scripts. Can you do something about it? > > Thanks > > -----Original Message----- > From: Skypeenglish [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Doug Lee > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 4:30 PM > To: screen readers' access with skype. > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] unable to install Skype scripts jfw-skr60a > > The log you sent says "Out of memory." That is strange to me and may > be temporary. > > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 04:14:08PM -0500, Luis Eduardo Pe?a wrote: > Hello, > > > > Yesterday I installed J-Tools and to do this I had to uninstall Jaws > altoguether. After this new installation I can?t install the jaws > scripts for skype. Here is the log of the error that I received: > > Install into JAWS folders 14.0. > > Preparing for JAWS script compilation. > > 14.0: > > User folder: C:\Users\luis pe?a\AppData\Roaming\Freedom > Scientific\JAWS\14.0\Settings\enu > > Shared folder: C:\ProgramData\Freedom > Scientific\JAWS\14.0\Settings\enu > > Output folder: C:\Users\luis pe?a\AppData\Roaming\Freedom > Scientific\JAWS\14.0\Settings\enu > > Installing files. > > JAWSUtil command: compile skype_compat.jss skype_jcpdict.jss Skype.JSS > skypewatch.JSS > > Error output: > > C:\Users\LUISPE~1\AppData\Local\Temp\nsgD01C.tmp\jawsutil.vbs(825, 3) > Microsoft VBScript runtime error: Out of memory: 'goFSO.fileExists' > > > > > > > > End of output. > > Command failed. > > Restoring this JAWS folder to its original state. > > JAWSUtil command: chain "default" remove skypewatch.jsb > > JAWSInstallDirs is . > > All installations failed! > > Writing log file. > > > > As you may know j-tools is a set of scripts developed by Brian Hargen > wich enhances the useability of Jaws. Here is the link to download > j-tools in case you want to do some testing: > > http://www.astec-at.co.uk/j-tools/6.0/J-Tools.EXE > > > > I should point out that I installed j-tools on my home computer and I > didn?t have this problem. Both computers are running Windows 8 and the > latest bill of Jaws 14, the bill that was released last week. > > > > The computer where I am experiencing this problem has 12 GB of memory, > so I don?t understand why the error log reports lack of memory. Your > suggestions to resolve this problem will be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks for your help > > > > Luis Eduardo Pe?a > > Cali, Colombia > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > > to contact skype support wiht any questions regarding your account > email [email protected] > > To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > -- > Doug Lee [email protected] http://www.dlee.org > SSB BART Group [email protected] > http://www.ssbbartgroup.com > "No person is your friend who demands your silence or denies your > right to grow." --unknown source > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > > to contact skype support wiht any questions regarding your account > email [email protected] > > To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > > to contact skype support wiht any questions regarding your account > email [email protected] > > To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > -- > Doug Lee [email protected] http://www.dlee.org > SSB BART Group [email protected] > http://www.ssbbartgroup.com > In healthy competition, the best battles are not for status, but for > excellence; and the battles are not between me and you, but between > you and you, and between me and me. (08/15/2009) > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > > to contact skype support wiht any questions regarding your account > email [email protected] > > To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > > to contact skype support wiht any questions regarding your account > email [email protected] > > To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > -- > Doug Lee [email protected] http://www.dlee.org > SSB BART Group [email protected] > http://www.ssbbartgroup.com > "Is your cucumber bitter? Throw it away. Are there briars in your > path? Turn aside. That is enough. Do not go on to say, `Why were > things of this sort ever brought into the world?'" > --Marcus Aurelius > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > > to contact skype support wiht any questions regarding your account > email [email protected] > > To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > > to contact skype support wiht any questions regarding your account > email [email protected] > > To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > > to contact skype support wiht any questions regarding your account > email [email protected] > > To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. to contact skype support wiht any questions regarding your account email [email protected] To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] and for a searchable archives page go here. http://bit.ly/64Y48 thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. to contact skype support wiht any questions regarding your account email [email protected] To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] and for a searchable archives page go here. http://bit.ly/64Y48 thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com
