Right on Doug, thanks much for the explanation of manually changing the SkypeWatch command below so it'll stick indeed and not automatically be overwritten. appreciate it.
-----Original Message----- From: Skypeenglish [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doug Lee Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:29 PM To: screen readers' access to skype and its interface. Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Problem with Skype Scripts and Default.JSS Ordinarily that is enough to change a script's keystroke. For SkypeWatch though, I can't distribute a copy of default.jkm because I might then erase stuff users set up for themselves. So I made the script code set those keystrokes. This means that if you change them in default.jkm manually, the scripts will come along and re-add the original assignments. To prevent that requires changes to skypewatch.jss in the SkypeWatch__setKeys() function. On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 02:15:45PM -0700, Smiling? wrote: So it would seem, that a user could just go into the default.JKM file and changing, alt+shift+f9=swSayAlert to whatever other keystroke that they wanted (realizing of course, that not just anything can be used simply based upon the shortcut keys for Windows alone say), but would this be the way to change the SkypeWatch keystroke command? Example keystroke: x+y=swSayAlert -----Original Message----- From: Skypeenglish [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doug Lee Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 6:56 AM To: screen readers' access to skype and its interface. Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Problem with Skype Scripts and Default.JSS Sounds like a couple things are going on here, though from what's written in this thread, I can't be certain of all of this. First, here's what I do know: The Skype script installer will not change anything in the JAWS shared folder, which is the one under ProgramData. I always recommend against people and installers doing this, as it can break JAWS updates and other things. The Skype script installer does modify default.jss/jsb in the JAWS user folder, where all custom scripts go. It does not actually replace the file though, and if it does not recognize the structure of that file before installation, it aborts with an error message. This is why people who end up somehow with a copy of default.jss from the shared folder in the user folder get errors when trying to install the Skype scripts. I have told people who get that error to delete default.jss/jsb from the user folder and try running the Skype installer again, if they are sure there is nothing important or not from Freedom Scientific in that file already. The effect of deleting default.jss/jsb from the user folder and then running the Skype script installer would be to replace default.jss and default.jsb with the little version that the Skype scripts manage. The little void function you saw, which should be called filler(), is something the Skype script installer puts there, in order to make older JAWS versions compile that file without errors. It only puts that function there if default.jss/jsb don't exist already when the installer runs, though. The Skype script installer itself does not modify default.jkm in either the shared or the user folder. The Skype scripts themselves, though, do plant a couple of SkypeWatch keystrokes in the user-folder version of default.jkm. They do not delete any existing key assignments, though if you had the SkypeWatch keys assigned to something else, the assignments for those specific keys may be changed to work as SkypeWatch keys. The key assignments managed by the scripts are these, both in the Common Keys section: alt+shift+f9=swSayAlert Control+ScrollLock+F9=swSayAlert The Skype scripts and installer will not change any other assignments in default.jkm. So after all that, here's what I'm guessing happened: I'm guessing that someone or another script installer modified default.jss in the JAWS shared folder, no idea how long ago. I'm guessing that a copy of this modification also ended up in the user folder, which happens automatically if you use the JAWS Script Manager to compile a shared-folder file. I'm guessing that someone then deleted the user-folder copy before running the Skype script installer, which would have the effect of creating a new, small default.jss in the user folder, just like you saw. I'm not sure what actually happened to your default.jkm file, as I don't know what specific changes you saw there. As to how to get things back: If there are important changes in the default.jss file in the shared folder, save that file somewhere before you next do a JAWS update or repair. If possible though, I recommend a JAWS repair to reset all of the shared-folder files to their original contents. If you know what created your default.jss, before it became short and sported the filler() function, see if that process left a backup of the file in a subfolder under your JAWS user folder. You can, as already advised in this thread, install the Skype scripts manually if you like; however, due to complexities in setting up SkypeWatch functionality, I tend to recommend against this. To let the installer work properly, I suggest moving, or backing up and then removing, the default.jss, default.jsb, and default.jsd files in the user folder. Do not alter anything in the shared folder here. Once you have cleared those files out of the way, the installer should work fine. Finally, if you originally had scripts loaded by default.jss besides SkypeWatch, and it was done via Use lines, you should be able to add those lines to the new default.jss created by the Skype script installer. The above procedure does not work well with scripts that want to plant actual code, as opposed to the empty filler() function and simple Use lines, in default.jss. This is why I made the installer abort on finding a default.jss that contains anything other than that. I hope this helps. On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 07:49:58AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote: I figured out what happened. A new default.jss was created in the JAWS settings\enu directory, and the default.jss in "program data\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\14..." directory got modified. On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 05:13:02 -0400, you wrote: >I installed the latest scripts and have found that my old JAWS >default.jss file has been replaced with a short file with one void >function in it. Further, I think my old default.jkm has been replaced >as well, because some of the default key assignments that were tied to >making other things work appear to have reverted back to default JAWS >behavior. What to do? >Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > >to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email [email protected] > >To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to >http://www.dlee.org/skype > > >To contact the list owner send a message to >mailto:[email protected] > >and for a searchable archives page go here. >http://bit.ly/64Y48 > >thanks and have a wonderful day. > >_______________________________________________ >Skypeenglish mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email [email protected] To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] and for a searchable archives page go here. http://bit.ly/64Y48 thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com -- Doug Lee [email protected] http://www.dlee.org SSB BART Group [email protected] http://www.ssbbartgroup.com "I am a leader by default, only because nature does not allow a vacuum." Bishop Desmond Tutu Thanks for posting to the skype english list. to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email [email protected] To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] and for a searchable archives page go here. http://bit.ly/64Y48 thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email [email protected] To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] and for a searchable archives page go here. http://bit.ly/64Y48 thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com -- Doug Lee [email protected] http://www.dlee.org SSB BART Group [email protected] http://www.ssbbartgroup.com "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum Thanks for posting to the skype english list. to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email [email protected] To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] and for a searchable archives page go here. http://bit.ly/64Y48 thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email [email protected] To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] and for a searchable archives page go here. http://bit.ly/64Y48 thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com
