ok Andrew On 8/15/14, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Skypeenglish mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Skypeenglish digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: searching for contacts (Adrien Collins) > 2. Re: [Bulk] Re: mood message query (Adrien Collins) > 3. creating shortcut for skype (Larry Gassman) > 4. creating shortcut for skype (Larry Gassman) > 5. Re: newest version not reading who the message is from > (Michele Barbi) > 6. Re: creating shortcut for skype (Sarah k Alawami) > 7. Re: searching for contacts (Sarah k Alawami) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:34:17 +0200 > From: "Adrien Collins" <[email protected]> > To: "'screen readers' access to skype and its interface.'" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] searching for contacts > Message-ID: <005901cfb88d$a324a120$e96de360$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Sarah > > Is there a hotkey to get to the search box? > > Regards > > Adrien > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Skypeenglish > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 8:59 PM > To: Skype English list > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] searching for contacts > > Hmm. try accessing the search from yoru contcts, that is, > show on line and then start typing the contact's name. > > Hth. > > On Aug 10, 2014, at 8:00 AM, ken lawrence > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > am using jaws and NVDA am not using a mac therefore > not using voiceover. so there is not a search button. I > hit search for contacts the edit field appears type a name > or email then nothing to start the search. it says clear > search input then the does skype power your passion crap > which I keep telling it to hide. there is not a go or a > search button to say Okay start search for who and what I > have typed. it used to be before microsoft took over skype > the search feature gave you several edit fields. you could > everything you know about that particular person. it was > like that on GW connect you saw a field that said, skype > name. then tabbing over you saw full name. tabbing over > you saw email then the field for results then the search > button. if no results came back nothing appeared. it's the > same issue with pandora. all of pandoras main commands are > centered around arrows, the plus and minus keys. so since > those also are screen reader functions nothing actually > works. this is because pandora apparently had no concept of > what a screen reader is and what it does. when you say > screen reader to some sighted people they say Oh, browser or > Oh speech recognition. have been asked by some sighted what > speech recognition I'm using. they honestly don't know the > differents. it wasn't until after pandora was launched that > someone noticed that blind couldn't use it well. it is > better with browsers that use HTML 5 but it still has > drawbacks. in my pandora the list of stations reads as a > list. no lingks buttons or anything to change it on the > fly. I've found a workaround using NVDA the skip that track > command is the right arrow. have found that on NVDA add the > alt key and you can skip. it doesn't work on all commands > the thumbs down which is the minus key doesn't work and the > alt left arrow will go back to the previous page you were on > not the previous track so likely it takes you out of pandora > back to the start page of the browser. on searches the > workaround is if you search for an artist by typing in that > artist and just hit enter without tabbing over if a result > is there it will automaticly create a new station but only > if the artist has a single result. there is no visible > create station showing in the search results. this was all > because screen readers which most of us use are third party > programs. with the mac, the screen reader was built into > the operating system so a pandora for example for the mac > takes into account how a screen reader is designed. this > was why GW micro developed GW connect in the first place > because skype when updated gets some change in it's > functionality. this version the latest is the clunkiest > most bulky I've seen. You had to tell it to make itself > more accesible. I know of sighted people who don't know how > to listen to a voicemail in fact, I don't know how either. > also can't figure out why on some of my contacts it says > unread messages... the other reason why voiceover > references won't help me much is a lot of what is done on a > mac isn't the internet. a lot of it is apps. you know that > catch phrase, there's an app for that. if we aren't careful > we will lose what access we have because the blind are to > small a minority for corporations to care about or worry > about. skype and all others are going to go where the most > people are and most people are sighted. that's why we need > lists like this one. > > From: Sarah Alawami <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:49 AM > To: screen readers' access to skype and its > interface. <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] searching for contacts > > You never said what screen reader you are running. > skype works fine wiht nvda and others outside the box. you > just need patience to use it. I can use skype in the mac > with voice over after they made some external improvements > to the program > > a around after you hit the search button, or start > typing in the contact table list the name you want. From > there you should be good to go. > > Skype is getting more and more stream lined in my > opinion. It's a learning curve but if we all take the time, > we can all without scripts or with miniminal scripting work > use the interface. > > Tc to all. > > > > > On Aug 9, 2014, at 16:17, Peter Scanlon > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > We should all write to Microsoft to allow > the use of GWConnect again. > > From: ken lawrence > <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:06 AM > To: screen readers' access to skype and its > interface. <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [Skypeenglish] searching for > contacts > > Hi skyp users have enabled the search for > contacts but don't see a search button, jst the clear button > andwhen I try enter without hitting a button nothing > happens. I'm telling you skype is clunkier and clunkier by > the day. we are going to lose what access we have if we > aren't careful. how do you search for contacts by name email > or skype name. nothing happens and there is not search > button. even when I have enabled that hot key. an idea > would some kind of mobile app be more accessible for a blind > user the same way the mobile facebook sight is used as an > alternative to the standard skype? > ________________________________ > > Thanks for posting to the skype english > list. > > to contact skype support with any questions > regarding your account email [email protected] > > To access scripts for the latest version of > skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > > mailto:[email protected] > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffpp > odcast.com > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english > list. > > to contact skype support with any questions > regarding your account email [email protected] > > To access scripts for the latest version of > skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > > mailto:[email protected] > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffpp > odcast.com > > > > ________________________________ > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > > to contact skype support with any questions > regarding your account email [email protected] > > To access scripts for the latest version of skype > go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffpp > odcast.com > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > > to contact skype support with any questions > regarding your account email [email protected] > > To access scripts for the latest version of skype > go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffpp > odcast.com > > > > I use BullGuard to keep my computer clean. > Try BullGuard for free: www.bullguard.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:38:43 +0200 > From: "Adrien Collins" <[email protected]> > To: "'screen readers' access to skype and its interface.'" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] [Bulk] Re: mood message query > Message-ID: <005f01cfb88e$413a7290$c3af57b0$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi > > Agreed, it just takes a bit of persistence. > > Regards > > Adrien > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Skypeenglish > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 10:45 AM > To: screen readers' access to skype and its interface. > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] [Bulk] Re: mood message query > > I would if I have the time, learn the skype interface. It's > gotten easer to use even over the past few months hence > there's really no need for any extras and add ons in my > opinion, except clisk which is not really an accessibility > but an advanced way of using skype. > > Take care. > > > >> On Aug 9, 2014, at 15:24, joseph weakland > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> well if skype talkihng still works might put it bhack on > system or should i bother since eventually all third party > stuff will go capoot >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michele Barbi" > <[email protected]> >> To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface." > <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 1:58 PM >> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Skypeenglish] mood message query >> >> >>> Hello, I usually use Skype Home but reccently I am unable > to share the status both on Skype and in Facebook, so I am > forced it to paste it in my profile or in the SkypeTalking > dialogue accessible by pressing alt+ctrl+shift+m twice in > quick succession. >>> Bye! >>> Barbuz >>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. >>> >>> to contact skype support with any questions regarding > your account email [email protected] >>> >>> To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to >>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>> >>> >>> To contact the list owner send a message to >>> mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> and for a searchable archives page go here. >>> http://bit.ly/64Y48 >>> >>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> > http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffpp > odcast.com >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. >> >> to contact skype support with any questions regarding your > account email [email protected] >> >> To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> >> >> To contact the list owner send a message to >> mailto:[email protected] >> >> and for a searchable archives page go here. >> http://bit.ly/64Y48 >> >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> [email protected] >> > http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffpp > odcast.com > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > > to contact skype support with any questions regarding your > account email [email protected] > > To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffpp > odcast.com > I use BullGuard to keep my computer clean. > Try BullGuard for free: www.bullguard.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 07:53:39 -0700 > From: Larry Gassman <[email protected]> > To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface." > <[email protected]>, "screen readers' access to > skype and its interface." <[email protected]> > Subject: [Skypeenglish] creating shortcut for skype > Message-ID: <5C.C6.19062.BEE1EE35@cdptpa-oedge01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Hi, > On my laptop, I lost the shortcut on my desktop. > When I clicked on programs and features I tried creating a shortcut > on my desktop. It said creating shortcut unavailable. > This is with Windows 8.1 on a laptop with JAWS. > Thoughts? > Larry > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 07:53:39 -0700 > From: Larry Gassman <[email protected]> > To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface." > <[email protected]>, "screen readers' access to > skype and its interface." <[email protected]> > Subject: [Skypeenglish] creating shortcut for skype > Message-ID: <5C.C6.19062.BEE1EE35@cdptpa-oedge01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Hi, > On my laptop, I lost the shortcut on my desktop. > When I clicked on programs and features I tried creating a shortcut > on my desktop. It said creating shortcut unavailable. > This is with Windows 8.1 on a laptop with JAWS. > Thoughts? > Larry > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 18:27:30 +0200 > From: Michele Barbi <[email protected]> > To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface." > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] newest version not reading who the message > is from > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Hey guys, > I will test Dan?s suggestion when I have the chance. > I noticed it too but I do not find it a very huge problem, especially in a > 1-by-1 chat, it can instead be when it deals with group chats and/or > conferences. > Bye! > Barbuz > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:19:42 -0700 > From: Sarah k Alawami <[email protected]> > To: Skype English list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] creating shortcut for skype > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I don't use windows 8 but can you click send to desk top as a short cut from > your skype.exe file where ever it's located? > On Aug 15, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Larry Gassman <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> On my laptop, I lost the shortcut on my desktop. >> When I clicked on programs and features I tried creating a shortcut on my >> desktop. It said creating shortcut unavailable. >> This is with Windows 8.1 on a laptop with JAWS. >> Thoughts? >> Larry >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. >> >> to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email >> [email protected] >> >> To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> >> >> To contact the list owner send a message to >> mailto:[email protected] >> >> and for a searchable archives page go here. >> http://bit.ly/64Y48 >> >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:20:40 -0700 > From: Sarah k Alawami <[email protected]> > To: Skype English list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] searching for contacts > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Since I don't use skype with windows I don't know. Can you start typing the > contact's name in the contacts list and find them that way? > On Aug 15, 2014, at 6:34 AM, Adrien Collins <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Sarah >> >> Is there a hotkey to get to the search box? >> >> Regards >> >> Adrien >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Skypeenglish >> [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami >> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 8:59 PM >> To: Skype English list >> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] searching for contacts >> >> Hmm. try accessing the search from yoru contcts, that is, >> show on line and then start typing the contact's name. >> >> Hth. >> >> On Aug 10, 2014, at 8:00 AM, ken lawrence >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> am using jaws and NVDA am not using a mac therefore >> not using voiceover. so there is not a search button. I >> hit search for contacts the edit field appears type a name >> or email then nothing to start the search. it says clear >> search input then the does skype power your passion crap >> which I keep telling it to hide. there is not a go or a >> search button to say Okay start search for who and what I >> have typed. it used to be before microsoft took over skype >> the search feature gave you several edit fields. you could >> everything you know about that particular person. it was >> like that on GW connect you saw a field that said, skype >> name. then tabbing over you saw full name. tabbing over >> you saw email then the field for results then the search >> button. if no results came back nothing appeared. it's the >> same issue with pandora. all of pandoras main commands are >> centered around arrows, the plus and minus keys. so since >> those also are screen reader functions nothing actually >> works. this is because pandora apparently had no concept of >> what a screen reader is and what it does. when you say >> screen reader to some sighted people they say Oh, browser or >> Oh speech recognition. have been asked by some sighted what >> speech recognition I'm using. they honestly don't know the >> differents. it wasn't until after pandora was launched that >> someone noticed that blind couldn't use it well. it is >> better with browsers that use HTML 5 but it still has >> drawbacks. in my pandora the list of stations reads as a >> list. no lingks buttons or anything to change it on the >> fly. I've found a workaround using NVDA the skip that track >> command is the right arrow. have found that on NVDA add the >> alt key and you can skip. it doesn't work on all commands >> the thumbs down which is the minus key doesn't work and the >> alt left arrow will go back to the previous page you were on >> not the previous track so likely it takes you out of pandora >> back to the start page of the browser. on searches the >> workaround is if you search for an artist by typing in that >> artist and just hit enter without tabbing over if a result >> is there it will automaticly create a new station but only >> if the artist has a single result. there is no visible >> create station showing in the search results. this was all >> because screen readers which most of us use are third party >> programs. with the mac, the screen reader was built into >> the operating system so a pandora for example for the mac >> takes into account how a screen reader is designed. this >> was why GW micro developed GW connect in the first place >> because skype when updated gets some change in it's >> functionality. this version the latest is the clunkiest >> most bulky I've seen. You had to tell it to make itself >> more accesible. I know of sighted people who don't know how >> to listen to a voicemail in fact, I don't know how either. >> also can't figure out why on some of my contacts it says >> unread messages... the other reason why voiceover >> references won't help me much is a lot of what is done on a >> mac isn't the internet. a lot of it is apps. you know that >> catch phrase, there's an app for that. if we aren't careful >> we will lose what access we have because the blind are to >> small a minority for corporations to care about or worry >> about. skype and all others are going to go where the most >> people are and most people are sighted. that's why we need >> lists like this one. >> >> From: Sarah Alawami <mailto:[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:49 AM >> To: screen readers' access to skype and its >> interface. <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] searching for contacts >> >> You never said what screen reader you are running. >> skype works fine wiht nvda and others outside the box. you >> just need patience to use it. I can use skype in the mac >> with voice over after they made some external improvements >> to the program >> >> a around after you hit the search button, or start >> typing in the contact table list the name you want. From >> there you should be good to go. >> >> Skype is getting more and more stream lined in my >> opinion. It's a learning curve but if we all take the time, >> we can all without scripts or with miniminal scripting work >> use the interface. >> >> Tc to all. >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 9, 2014, at 16:17, Peter Scanlon >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> We should all write to Microsoft to allow >> the use of GWConnect again. >> >> From: ken lawrence >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:06 AM >> To: screen readers' access to skype and its >> interface. <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: [Skypeenglish] searching for >> contacts >> >> Hi skyp users have enabled the search for >> contacts but don't see a search button, jst the clear button >> andwhen I try enter without hitting a button nothing >> happens. I'm telling you skype is clunkier and clunkier by >> the day. we are going to lose what access we have if we >> aren't careful. how do you search for contacts by name email >> or skype name. nothing happens and there is not search >> button. even when I have enabled that hot key. an idea >> would some kind of mobile app be more accessible for a blind >> user the same way the mobile facebook sight is used as an >> alternative to the standard skype? >> ________________________________ >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english >> list. >> >> to contact skype support with any questions >> regarding your account email [email protected] >> >> To access scripts for the latest version of >> skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> >> >> To contact the list owner send a message to >> >> mailto:[email protected] >> >> and for a searchable archives page go here. >> http://bit.ly/64Y48 >> >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffpp >> odcast.com >> >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english >> list. >> >> to contact skype support with any questions >> regarding your account email [email protected] >> >> To access scripts for the latest version of >> skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> >> >> To contact the list owner send a message to >> >> mailto:[email protected] >> >> and for a searchable archives page go here. >> http://bit.ly/64Y48 >> >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffpp >> odcast.com >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. >> >> to contact skype support with any questions >> regarding your account email [email protected] >> >> To access scripts for the latest version of skype >> go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> >> >> To contact the list owner send a message to >> mailto:[email protected] >> >> and for a searchable archives page go here. >> http://bit.ly/64Y48 >> >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffpp >> odcast.com >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. >> >> to contact skype support with any questions >> regarding your account email [email protected] >> >> To access scripts for the latest version of skype >> go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> >> >> To contact the list owner send a message to >> mailto:[email protected] >> >> and for a searchable archives page go here. >> http://bit.ly/64Y48 >> >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffpp >> odcast.com >> >> >> >> I use BullGuard to keep my computer clean. >> Try BullGuard for free: www.bullguard.com >> >> >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. >> >> to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email >> [email protected] >> >> To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> >> >> To contact the list owner send a message to >> mailto:[email protected] >> >> and for a searchable archives page go here. >> http://bit.ly/64Y48 >> >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.tffppodcast.com/private.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com/attachments/20140815/f5c32594/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Skypeenglish Digest, Vol 8, Issue 74 > ******************************************* > Thanks for posting to the skype english list.
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