Hi all.
Do I need to download tne new version of the scripts to silence the time
stamps?
A link if possible; I can't find the updated scripts?
I can only find revision 69a, and I already have that.
Jerry.
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timestamps can be silenced! (Graham Smith via Skypeenglish)
3. Re: [Bulk] Re: JAWS script beta for Skype 6.18released,
timestamps can be silenced! (John via Skypeenglish)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 19:42:46 -0400
From: Doris &Hubby Chris via Skypeenglish
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To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface."
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Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] What happened to ctrl+shift+o?
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no sighted user has to arrow thru contact list to see who of their
contacts is on. unless they have a zillion contacs a sighted user
can just glance down their contact list to see who is on.
to me, , the ctrl+shift+o did that "glancing;"
Thanks much.
Doris
At 05:02 PM 8/23/2014, you wrote:
Changes were made to support more screen readers at once without
requiring scripts, addons, etc. One such change was to move the
metadata like posting time, edit time, delivery status, etc. from the
Description MSAA property, which not all screen readers announce, into
the Name property, because they all do announce that one. As a result
though, the Name property became quite long and, as my audio file
explains, no longer machine parsable into its original parts. I don't
regard this as a loss of accessibility. It's a loss of a feature I
gave JAWS users above and beyond even what sighted users had, so it's
a loss of convenience as an expense for better actual accessibility.
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 04:24:26PM -0400, Chipmunks wrote:
Thank you for taking the time to reply. I must have missed the explanation
tho
I did follow the list pretty closely recently. but then I had been using
trused skype 3.8 untill a couple of days ago.
Just listened to the mp3 and wondering why mickyslop has to take away some
accessibility featureswhen hope had been that MS taking over might
actually
improve things.
Thanks much.
Doris in Germany
At 03:46 PM 8/23/2014, you wrote:
>Explained several times in different places, but the short answer is,
>no it can no longer be implemented properly and has left the scripts
>for that reason. A longer audio explanation appears here:
>
>http://www.dlee.org/skype/nolists.mp3
>
>On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 03:30:29PM -0400, Chipmunks wrote:
>I noticed that with the latest skype and the latest scripts the
above hotkey
>to list visible contacts no longer works. This was one of the hotkeys I
>used
>the most in skype. What is the reason it is not working any
longer? can it be
>re-implemented.
>
>I use latest skype with latest scripts on xp.
>
>Thanks much.
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 20:55:28 -0400
From: Graham Smith via Skypeenglish
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To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface."
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] [Bulk] Re: JAWS script beta for Skype 6.18
released, timestamps can be silenced!
Message-ID: <1284AA1ABC0B4535B37CB7A601741462@Graham>
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Yes time stamps all gone here thanks Doug.
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Lee
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 1:15
To: screen readers' access to skype and its interface.
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Skypeenglish] JAWS script beta for Skype 6.18
released,
timestamps can be silenced!
Yes, you can now scrap the timestamps: Use F2 or the Insert+V
Verbosity Options dialog to turn that feature on and off.
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 06:10:18AM +0100, steve troy wrote:
ok. thanks doug. finally managed to save it and have now installed.
if you've gotten rid of that blasted time stamp, good for you!!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <[email protected]>
To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface."
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 3:46 AM
Subject: [Skypeenglish] JAWS script beta for Skype 6.18
released,timestamps
can be silenced!
I have not written the documentation yet for this update, and I do
consider it a beta although it should be stable, but ...
This update allows chat timestamps to be silenced, virtualizations (on
double Alt+numbers etc.) to work including links without alignment
errors, message statuses like "not delivered" and "edited" to speak
first as they once did, and several other things.
Direct link to installer:
http://www.dlee.org/skype/jfw-skr618a.exe
Direct link to 12.5-minute audio presentation describing the changes:
http://www.dlee.org/skype/ts3.mp3
Enjoy, and please report any issues, in particular with JAWS versions
older than 15.0 since I can no longer easily test in those. JAWS 11
latest update remains the oldest supported JAWS version.
--
Doug Lee [email protected] http://www.dlee.org
SSB BART Group [email protected]
http://www.ssbbartgroup.com
"Believe, when you are most unhappy, that there is something for you
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 21:08:52 -0400
From: John via Skypeenglish <[email protected]>
To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface."
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] [Bulk] Re: JAWS script beta for Skype
6.18released, timestamps can be silenced!
Message-ID: <917845169B834B4DA648BEE0712B5FC5@Lenova>
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also, it doesn?t matter if you have the time stamps on to sho in skype
either.
-----Original Message-----
From: Graham Smith via Skypeenglish
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:55 PM
To: screen readers' access to skype and its interface.
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] [Bulk] Re: JAWS script beta for Skype
6.18released, timestamps can be silenced!
Yes time stamps all gone here thanks Doug.
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Lee
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 1:15
To: screen readers' access to skype and its interface.
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Skypeenglish] JAWS script beta for Skype 6.18
released,
timestamps can be silenced!
Yes, you can now scrap the timestamps: Use F2 or the Insert+V
Verbosity Options dialog to turn that feature on and off.
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 06:10:18AM +0100, steve troy wrote:
ok. thanks doug. finally managed to save it and have now installed.
if you've gotten rid of that blasted time stamp, good for you!!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <[email protected]>
To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface."
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 3:46 AM
Subject: [Skypeenglish] JAWS script beta for Skype 6.18
released,timestamps
can be silenced!
I have not written the documentation yet for this update, and I do
consider it a beta although it should be stable, but ...
This update allows chat timestamps to be silenced, virtualizations (on
double Alt+numbers etc.) to work including links without alignment
errors, message statuses like "not delivered" and "edited" to speak
first as they once did, and several other things.
Direct link to installer:
http://www.dlee.org/skype/jfw-skr618a.exe
Direct link to 12.5-minute audio presentation describing the changes:
http://www.dlee.org/skype/ts3.mp3
Enjoy, and please report any issues, in particular with JAWS versions
older than 15.0 since I can no longer easily test in those. JAWS 11
latest update remains the oldest supported JAWS version.
--
Doug Lee [email protected] http://www.dlee.org
SSB BART Group [email protected]
http://www.ssbbartgroup.com
"Believe, when you are most unhappy, that there is something for you
to do in the world. So long as you can sweeten another's pain, life is
not in vain." --Helen Keller
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 06:20:19 +0500
From: inamuddin via Skypeenglish <[email protected]>
To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface."
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] [Bulk] Re: JAWS script beta for
Skype6.18released, timestamps can be silenced!
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Most of skype english users are traditionalists, that's why they were
against time stamps.
They must be thankful to Doug Lee.
With regards from Inamuddin with the skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
----- Original Message -----
From: "John via Skypeenglish" <[email protected]>
To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface."
<[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] [Bulk] Re: JAWS script beta for
Skype6.18released, timestamps can be silenced!
also, it doesn?t matter if you have the time stamps on to sho in skype
either.
-----Original Message-----
From: Graham Smith via Skypeenglish
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:55 PM
To: screen readers' access to skype and its interface.
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] [Bulk] Re: JAWS script beta for Skype
6.18released, timestamps can be silenced!
Yes time stamps all gone here thanks Doug.
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Lee
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 1:15
To: screen readers' access to skype and its interface.
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Skypeenglish] JAWS script beta for Skype 6.18
released,
timestamps can be silenced!
Yes, you can now scrap the timestamps: Use F2 or the Insert+V
Verbosity Options dialog to turn that feature on and off.
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 06:10:18AM +0100, steve troy wrote:
ok. thanks doug. finally managed to save it and have now installed.
if you've gotten rid of that blasted time stamp, good for you!!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <[email protected]>
To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface."
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 3:46 AM
Subject: [Skypeenglish] JAWS script beta for Skype 6.18
released,timestamps
can be silenced!
I have not written the documentation yet for this update, and I do
consider it a beta although it should be stable, but ...
This update allows chat timestamps to be silenced, virtualizations (on
double Alt+numbers etc.) to work including links without alignment
errors, message statuses like "not delivered" and "edited" to speak
first as they once did, and several other things.
Direct link to installer:
http://www.dlee.org/skype/jfw-skr618a.exe
Direct link to 12.5-minute audio presentation describing the changes:
http://www.dlee.org/skype/ts3.mp3
Enjoy, and please report any issues, in particular with JAWS versions
older than 15.0 since I can no longer easily test in those. JAWS 11
latest update remains the oldest supported JAWS version.
--
Doug Lee [email protected] http://www.dlee.org
SSB BART Group [email protected]
http://www.ssbbartgroup.com
"Believe, when you are most unhappy, that there is something for you
to do in the world. So long as you can sweeten another's pain, life is
not in vain." --Helen Keller
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