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>    1. Re: Microsoft in European Parliament meeting
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>       (Michele Barbi via Skypeenglish)
>    3. Re: Microsoft in European Parliament meeting
>       (Andre Polykanine via Skypeenglish)
>    4. Re: [Skype English] Microsoft in European Parliament meeting
>       (Doris &Hubby Chris via Skypeenglish)
>    5. Re: Microsoft in European Parliament meeting
>       (Doris &Hubby Chris via Skypeenglish)
>    6. Re: [Skype English] Microsoft in European Parliament    meeting
>       (steve troy via Skypeenglish)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:55:20 -0500
> From: Doug Lee via Skypeenglish <[email protected]>
> To: Gerry Ellis via Skypeenglish <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Microsoft in European Parliament meeting
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> Responding quickly as I have limited keyboard time today...
>
> APIs:
> The Skype Desktop API is what Clisk requires. It was officially end-of-lifed
> at the end of 2013 but still functions partially.
> The Skype DevKit is, I think, the name of the API Skypetalking uses. That
> one may no longer work at all.
>
> >From other replies you got:
>
> Online person count: I understand some people want this but I'm not sure
> it's still available visually either. We don't need access to things that no
> longer exist as much as to things that still do. :-) (Ctrl+Shift+O was a
> JAWS script feature, not a Skype feature.)
>
> Last-seen date/time: These are in a tool tip now and would better be
> provided via MSAA's accHelp or the UIA HelpText property of the listItem for
> each contact. This is a good approach to handling tooltip text in general.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 05:47:46PM -0000, Gerry Ellis via Skypeenglish
> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am from Ireland, but I will meet with representatives of Microsoft at a
> meeting on accessibility and technology in the European Parliament in
> Brussels next Wednesday (19th).
>
> What are the main issues with Skype that need to be raised?
>
> I know about the withdrawal of the API that supports SkypeTalking and
> probably CLISK, but can someone give me the proper names of the API and the
> products affected?
>
> What is the issue with being forced to sign up for a Microsoft account?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Take care,
>
> Gerry Ellis
>
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> How will you know when you get there?
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 17:59:03 +0100
> From: Michele Barbi via Skypeenglish
>       <[email protected]>
> To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface."
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> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Microsoft in European Parliament meeting
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>
> Hey Doug,
> I am not sure if SkypeTalking was developed under SkypeKit, since it
> required Skype access as well as clisk I think. Other software under
> SkypeKit was surely GWConnect which now does not work anymore and has
> been discontinued.
> Bye!
> Barbuz
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 20:05:48 +0200
> From: Andre Polykanine via Skypeenglish
>       <[email protected]>
> To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface."
>       <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Microsoft in European Parliament meeting
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>
> Hello Doug,
>
> Nope, Skypetalking used to use the Desktop API, also.
>
>
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>
> ------------ Original message ------------
> From: Doug Lee via Skypeenglish <[email protected]>
> To: Gerry Ellis via Skypeenglish
> Date created: , 6:55:20 PM
> Subject: [Skypeenglish] Microsoft in European Parliament meeting
>
>
>       Responding quickly as I have limited keyboard time today...
>
> APIs:
> The Skype Desktop API is what Clisk requires. It was officially end-of-lifed
> at the end of 2013 but still functions partially.
> The Skype DevKit is, I think, the name of the API Skypetalking uses. That
> one may no longer work at all.
>
> From other replies you got:
>
> Online person count: I understand some people want this but I'm not sure
> it's still available visually either. We don't need access to things that no
> longer exist as much as to things that still do. :-) (Ctrl+Shift+O was a
> JAWS script feature, not a Skype feature.)
>
> Last-seen date/time: These are in a tool tip now and would better be
> provided via MSAA's accHelp or the UIA HelpText property of the listItem for
> each contact. This is a good approach to handling tooltip text in general.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 05:47:46PM -0000, Gerry Ellis via Skypeenglish
> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am from Ireland, but I will meet with representatives of Microsoft at a
> meeting on accessibility and technology in the European Parliament in
> Brussels next Wednesday (19th).
>
> What are the main issues with Skype that need to be raised?
>
> I know about the withdrawal of the API that supports SkypeTalking and
> probably CLISK, but can someone give me the proper names of the API and the
> products affected?
>
> What is the issue with being forced to sign up for a Microsoft account?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Take care,
>
> Gerry Ellis
>
> If you don't know where you're going,
> How will you know when you get there?
>
>
>
> Thanks for posting to the skype english list.
>
> to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email
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>
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>
>
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> "While they were saying among themselves it cannot be done, it was
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 14:07:03 -0500
> From: Doris &Hubby Chris via Skypeenglish
>       <[email protected]>
> To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface."
>       <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] [Skype English] Microsoft in European
>       Parliament meeting
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> You could try using gw connect again.
>
> I unfortunately cannot contact you off list thanks to the list
> settings. but you can write me at
>
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> Take care
>
> Doris
>
> At 01:11 PM 11/15/2014, you wrote:
>>Respected friend, I have several issues needed to be resolved.
>>Whenever Skype updates, its development team must take care to the users
>> who
>>are visually impaired people who use different screen readers such as
>> Jaws,
>>NVDA, window-Eye etc.
>>In the past, there was a great feature which tells us how many people are
>> on
>>line using ctrl+shift+O, but unfortunately due to the change of [MSAA] it
>>has gone.
>>I want this feature be back.
>>Also in Skype 3.8 there was a feature with offline contacts it used to say
>>last seen the date & time.
>>In short many wonderful features has gone which I wanted to be back in
>>upcoming Skype versions.
>>Also I want a feature. If someone has removed me or blocked me it should
>>have another separate list that should be down of offline contacts.
>>In GWConnect there was a feature pending request.
>>With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
>>Charlsdarwin1
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Skypeenglish [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>Behalf Of Gerry Ellis via Skypeenglish
>>Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 10:48 PM
>>To: 'screen readers' access to skype and its interface.'
>>Subject: [Skypeenglish] Microsoft in European Parliament meeting
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I am from Ireland, but I will meet with representatives of Microsoft at a
>>meeting on accessibility and technology in the European Parliament in
>>Brussels next Wednesday (19th).
>>
>>What are the main issues with Skype that need to be raised?
>>
>>I know about the withdrawal of the API that supports SkypeTalking and
>>probably CLISK, but can someone give me the proper names of the API and
>> the
>>products affected?
>>
>>What is the issue with being forced to sign up for a Microsoft account?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>Take care,
>>
>>Gerry Ellis
>>
>>If you don't know where you're going,
>>How will you know when you get there?
>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks for posting to the skype english list.
>>
>>to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email
>>[email protected]
>>
>>To  access scripts for the latest version of skype go to
>>http://www.dlee.org/skype
>>
>>
>>To contact the list owner send a message to
>>mailto:[email protected]
>>
>>and for a searchable archives page go here.
>>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
>>
>>thanks and have a wonderful day.
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Skypeenglish mailing list
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>>
>>Thanks for posting to the skype english list.
>>
>>to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account
>>email [email protected]
>>
>>To  access scripts for the latest version of skype go to
>>http://www.dlee.org/skype
>>
>>
>>To contact the list owner send a message to
>>mailto:[email protected]
>>
>>and for a searchable archives page go here.
>>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
>>
>>thanks and have a wonderful day.
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 14:10:20 -0500
> From: Doris &Hubby Chris via Skypeenglish
>       <[email protected]>
> To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface."
>       <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Microsoft in European Parliament meeting
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> having to sign up for a Microsoft account pertains only to the skype
> client that comes built into windows 8.1.
>
> Not having access to the skype api not only affects use of certain
> programs but also some hardware skypeskype phone devices.
>
>
>
>
> At 12:47 PM 11/15/2014, you wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>I am from Ireland, but I will meet with representatives of Microsoft at a
>>meeting on accessibility and technology in the European Parliament in
>>Brussels next Wednesday (19th).
>>
>>What are the main issues with Skype that need to be raised?
>>
>>I know about the withdrawal of the API that supports SkypeTalking and
>>probably CLISK, but can someone give me the proper names of the API and
>> the
>>products affected?
>>
>>What is the issue with being forced to sign up for a Microsoft account?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>Take care,
>>
>>Gerry Ellis
>>
>>If you don't know where you're going,
>>How will you know when you get there?
>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks for posting to the skype english list.
>>
>>to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account
>>email [email protected]
>>
>>To  access scripts for the latest version of skype go to
>>http://www.dlee.org/skype
>>
>>
>>To contact the list owner send a message to
>>mailto:[email protected]
>>
>>and for a searchable archives page go here.
>>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
>>
>>thanks and have a wonderful day.
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Skypeenglish mailing list
>>[email protected]
>>http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 20:49:35 -0000
> From: steve troy via Skypeenglish <[email protected]>
> To: "'screen readers' access to skype and its interface.'"
>       <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] [Skype English] Microsoft in European
>       Parliament      meeting
> Message-ID: <003501d001de$d5d2bdb0$81783910$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi
>
> Is gw back and working?
>
> If someone has removed you from their list of skype contacts, when you
> arrow
> down the list,  your screen reader should say this person has not shared
> their contact details with you. That should be information enough. There is
> no need for skype developers to make it any clearer.
>
> I'm not sure how they could say you have been blocked by someone. Perhaps
> someone with a sighted friend, who has recently been blocked could let us
> know what it says on the screen. For those who  use a screen reader,  i
> believe it simply says that the contact is offline.
>
> Regards
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skypeenglish [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Doris &Hubby Chris via Skypeenglish
> Sent: 15 November 2014 19:07
> To: screen readers' access to skype and its interface.
> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] [Skype English] Microsoft in European
> Parliament
> meeting
>
> You could try using gw connect again.
>
> I unfortunately cannot contact you off list thanks to the list settings.
> but
> you can write me at
>
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> Take care
>
> Doris
>
> At 01:11 PM 11/15/2014, you wrote:
>>Respected friend, I have several issues needed to be resolved.
>>Whenever Skype updates, its development team must take care to the
>>users who are visually impaired people who use different screen readers
>>such as Jaws, NVDA, window-Eye etc.
>>In the past, there was a great feature which tells us how many people
>>are on line using ctrl+shift+O, but unfortunately due to the change of
>>[MSAA] it has gone.
>>I want this feature be back.
>>Also in Skype 3.8 there was a feature with offline contacts it used to
>>say last seen the date & time.
>>In short many wonderful features has gone which I wanted to be back in
>>upcoming Skype versions.
>>Also I want a feature. If someone has removed me or blocked me it
>>should have another separate list that should be down of offline contacts.
>>In GWConnect there was a feature pending request.
>>With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
>>Charlsdarwin1
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Skypeenglish [mailto:[email protected]]
>>On Behalf Of Gerry Ellis via Skypeenglish
>>Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 10:48 PM
>>To: 'screen readers' access to skype and its interface.'
>>Subject: [Skypeenglish] Microsoft in European Parliament meeting
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I am from Ireland, but I will meet with representatives of Microsoft at
>>a meeting on accessibility and technology in the European Parliament in
>>Brussels next Wednesday (19th).
>>
>>What are the main issues with Skype that need to be raised?
>>
>>I know about the withdrawal of the API that supports SkypeTalking and
>>probably CLISK, but can someone give me the proper names of the API and
>>the products affected?
>>
>>What is the issue with being forced to sign up for a Microsoft account?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>Take care,
>>
>>Gerry Ellis
>>
>>If you don't know where you're going,
>>How will you know when you get there?
>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks for posting to the skype english list.
>>
>>to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account
>>email [email protected]
>>
>>To  access scripts for the latest version of skype go to
>>http://www.dlee.org/skype
>>
>>
>>To contact the list owner send a message to
>>mailto:[email protected]
>>
>>and for a searchable archives page go here.
>>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
>>
>>thanks and have a wonderful day.
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Skypeenglish mailing list
>>[email protected]
>>http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com
>>
>>Thanks for posting to the skype english list.
>>
>>to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account
>>email [email protected]
>>
>>To  access scripts for the latest version of skype go to
>>http://www.dlee.org/skype
>>
>>
>>To contact the list owner send a message to
>>mailto:[email protected]
>>
>>and for a searchable archives page go here.
>>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
>>
>>thanks and have a wonderful day.
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Skypeenglish mailing list
>>[email protected]
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>
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