Mostafa, I’m sorry, you were chastised for stating your case. I thought, this was a non judgmental list and hope, it was just one member’s opinion. As to your computer not changing after you did what you could, you will learn, our computers don’t like change. When we change a setting or make a radical adjustment, our computer may not change, instantly. Sometimes, it takes several restarts, before the changes are rooted. These devices are strange animals, indeed. As to Skype being as good as it gets, I can agree, it has many issues, not yet addressed by Microsoft, as my questions to the list can attest. Our Script Master does what he can, but there appears to be unresolved issues and like you, I am left frustrated. Hugs, Frank of Paradise
Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: via Skypeenglish<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 3:54 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Skypeenglish Digest, Vol 38, Issue 13 Send Skypeenglish mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Skypeenglish digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Skype for windows (Mostafa Almahdy via Skypeenglish) 2. Re: Skype for windows (ken lawrence via Skypeenglish) 3. Re: Skype for windows (Sarah Alawami via Skypeenglish) 4. Office 365 Skype for business for Mac (Hope Paulos via Skypeenglish) 5. Re: Skype for windows (Mike DeZinno via Skypeenglish) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 11:32:31 +0200 From: Mostafa Almahdy via Skypeenglish <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [Skypeenglish] Skype for windows Message-ID: <CAL9QCSPev=OXgrO4ybQ54fzozrAygdwjZ87o3j50f=zjgzz...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I use Skype for windows, the latest of course. However, I took my laptop to work couple of days ago and signed out from Skype to not receive alerts or that I may forgotten to set it on do not disturb. Anyway, I went to sign back in and it gave me the following message. Cookies must be allowed. I figured on my default browser, which is firefox how to change that and I enabled cookies. Well, the same message is still being spoken even after uninstalling both twice, Skype and firefox. I even removed all Skype data from the C. Still, that hasn't fixed the problem. It insists to remember my Skype name, and the password field is not even shown because it is remembered despite two attempts to remove all Skype related information. Most absurdly, though, I even attempted to create new account and well, the process is never finished because the service is temporarily unavailable. That's the message I get when I am almost done. This is frustrating indeed and I'd like to notify Skype developers, that I am extremely disappointed with their service. The quality of what used to be the worldwide reliable chat client is not good enough. Please, pass this on to whoever works for them. I believe some Skype developers may watch the list and thus, I wanted to make this clear, this is heavily unsatisfying. Mostafa -- (Seeking knowledge is compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a shoreless ocean.) ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 10:32:34 -0500 From: ken lawrence via Skypeenglish <[email protected]> To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype for windows Message-ID: <6A5332DFC466453E8EF8AF7BE7D7DD37@KenHP> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original this doesn't seem to be a problem with firefox or skype never heard of something like this. but I think you had better understand something absolutely your not going to like this but I think everyone on this list will tell you the same. developers don't owe you or anyone else here on this list one thing. skype is still a very good and very reliable product I participated in a game on skype the other day with only one major issue and that was a a strange stuttering issue in the audio. I'm pretty sure it was weather related. not sure why you signed out I have my skype set to sign me in automaticly when skype starts. also have it set to start automaticly when windows starts. you might before complaining about how rotten skype is to developers work on troubleshoting a problem. did you scan for viruses/malware? what windows version are you using and a few other things like that to consider. but don't blame developers for every little issue. the developers of programs or websites don't owe any of us anything just because we are blind. that's not something you may like to or even want to hear, but it's a fact. -----Original Message----- From: Mostafa Almahdy via Skypeenglish Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 4:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Skypeenglish] Skype for windows I use Skype for windows, the latest of course. However, I took my laptop to work couple of days ago and signed out from Skype to not receive alerts or that I may forgotten to set it on do not disturb. Anyway, I went to sign back in and it gave me the following message. Cookies must be allowed. I figured on my default browser, which is firefox how to change that and I enabled cookies. Well, the same message is still being spoken even after uninstalling both twice, Skype and firefox. I even removed all Skype data from the C. Still, that hasn't fixed the problem. It insists to remember my Skype name, and the password field is not even shown because it is remembered despite two attempts to remove all Skype related information. Most absurdly, though, I even attempted to create new account and well, the process is never finished because the service is temporarily unavailable. That's the message I get when I am almost done. This is frustrating indeed and I'd like to notify Skype developers, that I am extremely disappointed with their service. The quality of what used to be the worldwide reliable chat client is not good enough. Please, pass this on to whoever works for them. I believe some Skype developers may watch the list and thus, I wanted to make this clear, this is heavily unsatisfying. Mostafa -- (Seeking knowledge is compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a shoreless ocean.) Thanks for posting to the skype english list. to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email [email protected] To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] and for a searchable archives page go here. https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] to modify yoru subscription visit the list info link at the bottom of this email, or click the link in the email you receive with your list password each month. thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 10:43:58 -0800 From: Sarah Alawami via Skypeenglish <[email protected]> To: Skype English list <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype for windows Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I also never have heard of this. I would uninstall skype and FF, scan the computer with avast or what ever you use, reinstall skype, sign in, reinstall firefox, and see if that goes away. If you have any complaints contact skype through the contact form they have on their page. I would use the forums but they have become inaccessible for mac and windows on a;; browsers and nvda. > On Feb 10, 2017, at 7:32 AM, ken lawrence via Skypeenglish > <[email protected]> wrote: > > this doesn't seem to be a problem with firefox or skype never heard of > something like this. but I think you had better understand something > absolutely your not going to like this but I think everyone on this list will > tell you the same. developers don't owe you or anyone else here on this list > one thing. skype is still a very good and very reliable product I > participated in a game on skype the other day with only one major issue and > that was a a strange stuttering issue in the audio. I'm pretty sure it was > weather related. not sure why you signed out I have my skype set to sign me > in automaticly when skype starts. also have it set to start automaticly when > windows starts. you might before complaining about how rotten skype is to > developers work on troubleshoting a problem. did you scan for > viruses/malware? what windows version are you using and a few other things > like that to consider. but don't blame developers for every little issue. > the developers of programs o r websites don't owe any of us anything just because we are blind. that's not something you may like to or even want to hear, but it's a fact. > > -----Original Message----- From: Mostafa Almahdy via Skypeenglish > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 4:32 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Skypeenglish] Skype for windows > > I use Skype for windows, the latest of course. However, I took my > laptop to work couple of days ago and signed out from Skype to not > receive alerts or that I may forgotten to set it on do not disturb. > Anyway, I went to sign back in and it gave me the following message. > Cookies must be allowed. I figured on my default browser, which is > firefox how to change that and I enabled cookies. Well, the same > message is still being spoken even after uninstalling both twice, > Skype and firefox. I even removed all Skype data from the C. Still, > that hasn't fixed the problem. It insists to remember my Skype name, > and the password field is not even shown because it is remembered > despite two attempts to remove all Skype related information. Most > absurdly, though, I even attempted to create new account and well, the > process is never finished because the service is temporarily > unavailable. That's the message I get when I am almost done. This is > frustrating indeed and I'd like to notify Skype developers, that I am > extremely disappointed with their service. The quality of what used > to be the worldwide reliable chat client is not good enough. Please, > pass this on to whoever works for them. I believe some Skype > developers may watch the list and thus, I wanted to make this clear, > this is heavily unsatisfying. > > Mostafa > > -- > (Seeking knowledge is compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a > shoreless ocean.) > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > > to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email > [email protected] > > To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > to modify yoru subscription visit the list info link at the bottom of this > email, or click the link in the email you receive with your list password > each month. > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > > to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email > [email protected] > > To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > to modify yoru subscription visit the list info link at the bottom of this > email, or click the link in the email you receive with your list password > each month. > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 13:59:49 -0500 From: Hope Paulos via Skypeenglish <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [Skypeenglish] Office 365 Skype for business for Mac Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all. My work will be switching to office 365 Skype for business for Mac, for instant messaging purposes. Has anybody had any experience with this? How accessible is this with voiceover? Any information people can provide would be greatly appreciated. Hope Paulos ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 15:29:48 -0500 From: Mike DeZinno via Skypeenglish <[email protected]> To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype for windows Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Amen Ken! Skype gives their product away for free to the entire world and has for years on the hope that some day they will find some way to be repaid that won't have to come from it's free subscribers. As a fellow blind person I'm just glad that they created something that most of the time we can use that works at all! Next month will be 30 years since I first got involved with screen reading tech and computers that are blind accessible. If you think it's frustrating now you should have been around 30, 25, or even 20 years ago when they were telling the blind community that DOS was the best we would ever get and Windows would never be accessible for the blind! LOL Oh, not to mention anything and everything in those days had to be bought and paid for, even the things that didn't work at all you bought at your own risk no one gave any guarantees,and no such thing as a 30 day free trial! LOL As a community we need to have a greater attitude of gratitude, and just not be so hair triggered to start finger pointing at developers that disappoint us when using their free stuff. LOL That's why we are all here now to help each other cover the ground in the middle that the sighted world doesn't even know exists or for sure never gives it much thought during their day while they are trying to carve out their own way to survive. I'm very grateful to all of you in our little blind Skype community who helped me several years ago get my Skype feet wet. I have had much success working with it and have been able to do things that I once was told by well meaning sighted people would be impossible for the blind to ever do. Love to all of you for what you do for all of us, and a very special thanks to Mr. Doug Lee. For ever grateful, Mike At 10:32 AM 2/10/2017, you wrote: >this doesn't seem to be a problem with firefox or skype never heard of >something like this. but I think you had better understand something >absolutely your not going to like this but I think everyone on this list >will tell you the same. developers don't owe you or anyone else here on >this list one thing. skype is still a very good and very reliable product >I participated in a game on skype the other day with only one major issue >and that was a a strange stuttering issue in the audio. I'm pretty sure >it was weather related. not sure why you signed out I have my skype set >to sign me in automaticly when skype starts. also have it set to start >automaticly when windows starts. you might before complaining about how >rotten skype is to developers work on troubleshoting a problem. did you >scan for viruses/malware? what windows version are you using and a few >other things like that to consider. but don't blame developers for every >little issue. the developers of programs or websites don't owe any of us >anything just because we are blind. that's not something you may like to >or even want to hear, but it's a fact. > >-----Original Message----- From: Mostafa Almahdy via Skypeenglish >Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 4:32 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [Skypeenglish] Skype for windows > >I use Skype for windows, the latest of course. However, I took my >laptop to work couple of days ago and signed out from Skype to not >receive alerts or that I may forgotten to set it on do not disturb. >Anyway, I went to sign back in and it gave me the following message. >Cookies must be allowed. I figured on my default browser, which is >firefox how to change that and I enabled cookies. Well, the same >message is still being spoken even after uninstalling both twice, >Skype and firefox. I even removed all Skype data from the C. Still, >that hasn't fixed the problem. It insists to remember my Skype name, >and the password field is not even shown because it is remembered >despite two attempts to remove all Skype related information. Most >absurdly, though, I even attempted to create new account and well, the >process is never finished because the service is temporarily >unavailable. That's the message I get when I am almost done. This is >frustrating indeed and I'd like to notify Skype developers, that I am >extremely disappointed with their service. The quality of what used >to be the worldwide reliable chat client is not good enough. Please, >pass this on to whoever works for them. I believe some Skype >developers may watch the list and thus, I wanted to make this clear, >this is heavily unsatisfying. > >Mostafa > >-- >(Seeking knowledge is compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a >shoreless ocean.) >Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > >to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email >[email protected] > >To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to >http://www.dlee.org/skype > > >To contact the list owner send a message to >mailto:[email protected] > >and for a searchable archives page go here. >https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >to modify yoru subscription visit the list info link at the bottom of this >email, or click the link in the email you receive with your list password >each month. >thanks and have a wonderful day. > >_______________________________________________ >Skypeenglish mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com >Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > >to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email >[email protected] > >To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to >http://www.dlee.org/skype > > >To contact the list owner send a message to >mailto:[email protected] > >and for a searchable archives page go here. >https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >to modify yoru subscription visit the list info link at the bottom of this >email, or click the link in the email you receive with your list password >each month. >thanks and have a wonderful day. > >_______________________________________________ >Skypeenglish mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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