I never negated the fact I am blind. However, my complaint had nothing to do with blindness.
On 2/11/17, via Skypeenglish <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Skypeenglish mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Skypeenglish digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Skypeenglish Digest, Vol 38, Issue 13 > (Mike DeZinno via Skypeenglish) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 07:27:39 -0500 > From: Mike DeZinno via Skypeenglish > <[email protected]> > To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface." > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skypeenglish Digest, Vol 38, Issue 13 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" > > Sorry for assuming you were blind. > Since this is a forum for blind Skype users we just would assume anyone > asking the kind of questions you asked was also blind. > > If you are sighted then most likely you aren't using any third party text > to speech screen reading software like Jaws so you may find our > suggestions may not be of any use to you since as blind users we have to > rely upon commands and techniques that are specific to the adaptive tech we > > have to use. > > But the good news is if you are sighted there is a lot more help > available on-line that can address most problems most people would run into > > and that help is available in more formats and more languages. > > hang in there and good luck with your search, Skype is really great once > you get it up and running. > > Stay well, > Mike > > > > At 11:59 PM 2/10/2017, you wrote: >>Look everyone, I never even mentioned the term blind in my message. I >>reported a complaint as an end user. Whether I chose to use their free >>or payable service, I have got to receive the same quality unless you >>look at it from capitalistic point of view. Pay more, get better. If >>someone here couldn't suggest technical tips, there is no need for >>prejudice. By the way, in order to use Skype forum, you have to be >>loged in. AS For scanning my windows, I have no threats. I scan my >>drives almost daily because I use this laptop for daily activities. >> >>Mostafa >> >>On 2/10/17, via Skypeenglish <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Send Skypeenglish mailing list submissions to >> > [email protected] >> > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > >> http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com >> > >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > [email protected] >> > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at >> > [email protected] >> > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> > than "Re: Contents of Skypeenglish digest..." >> > >> > >> > Today's Topics: >> > >> > 1. Skype for windows (Mostafa Almahdy via Skypeenglish) >> > 2. Re: Skype for windows (ken lawrence via Skypeenglish) >> > 3. Re: Skype for windows (Sarah Alawami via Skypeenglish) >> > 4. Office 365 Skype for business for Mac >> > (Hope Paulos via Skypeenglish) >> > 5. Re: Skype for windows (Mike DeZinno via Skypeenglish) >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 11:32:31 +0200 >> > From: Mostafa Almahdy via Skypeenglish >> > <[email protected]> >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: [Skypeenglish] Skype for windows >> > Message-ID: >> > >> > <CAL9QCSPev=OXgrO4ybQ54fzozrAygdwjZ87o3j50f=zjgzz...@mail.gmail.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> > >> > I use Skype for windows, the latest of course. However, I took my >> > laptop to work couple of days ago and signed out from Skype to not >> > receive alerts or that I may forgotten to set it on do not disturb. >> > Anyway, I went to sign back in and it gave me the following message. >> > Cookies must be allowed. I figured on my default browser, which is >> > firefox how to change that and I enabled cookies. Well, the same >> > message is still being spoken even after uninstalling both twice, >> > Skype and firefox. I even removed all Skype data from the C. Still, >> > that hasn't fixed the problem. It insists to remember my Skype name, >> > and the password field is not even shown because it is remembered >> > despite two attempts to remove all Skype related information. Most >> > absurdly, though, I even attempted to create new account and well, the >> > process is never finished because the service is temporarily >> > unavailable. That's the message I get when I am almost done. This is >> > frustrating indeed and I'd like to notify Skype developers, that I am >> > extremely disappointed with their service. The quality of what used >> > to be the worldwide reliable chat client is not good enough. Please, >> > pass this on to whoever works for them. I believe some Skype >> > developers may watch the list and thus, I wanted to make this clear, >> > this is heavily unsatisfying. >> > >> > Mostafa >> > >> > -- >> > (Seeking knowledge is compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a >> > shoreless ocean.) >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 2 >> > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 10:32:34 -0500 >> > From: ken lawrence via Skypeenglish >> > <[email protected]> >> > To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface." >> > <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype for windows >> > Message-ID: <6A5332DFC466453E8EF8AF7BE7D7DD37@KenHP> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> > reply-type=original >> > >> > this doesn't seem to be a problem with firefox or skype never heard of >> > something like this. but I think you had better understand something >> > absolutely your not going to like this but I think everyone on this >> > list >> > will tell you the same. developers don't owe you or anyone else here >> > on >> > this list one thing. skype is still a very good and very reliable >> product I >> > >> > participated in a game on skype the other day with only one major issue >> > and >> > >> > that was a a strange stuttering issue in the audio. I'm pretty sure it >> > was >> > >> > weather related. not sure why you signed out I have my skype set to >> sign me >> > >> > in automaticly when skype starts. also have it set to start >> > automaticly >> > when windows starts. you might before complaining about how rotten >> skype is >> > >> > to developers work on troubleshoting a problem. did you scan for >> > viruses/malware? what windows version are you using and a few other >> > things >> > >> > like that to consider. but don't blame developers for every little >> > issue. >> > the developers of programs or websites don't owe any of us anything >> > just >> > because we are blind. that's not something you may like to or even want >> > to >> > >> > hear, but it's a fact. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Mostafa Almahdy via Skypeenglish >> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 4:32 AM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: [Skypeenglish] Skype for windows >> > >> > I use Skype for windows, the latest of course. However, I took my >> > laptop to work couple of days ago and signed out from Skype to not >> > receive alerts or that I may forgotten to set it on do not disturb. >> > Anyway, I went to sign back in and it gave me the following message. >> > Cookies must be allowed. I figured on my default browser, which is >> > firefox how to change that and I enabled cookies. Well, the same >> > message is still being spoken even after uninstalling both twice, >> > Skype and firefox. I even removed all Skype data from the C. Still, >> > that hasn't fixed the problem. It insists to remember my Skype name, >> > and the password field is not even shown because it is remembered >> > despite two attempts to remove all Skype related information. Most >> > absurdly, though, I even attempted to create new account and well, the >> > process is never finished because the service is temporarily >> > unavailable. That's the message I get when I am almost done. This is >> > frustrating indeed and I'd like to notify Skype developers, that I am >> > extremely disappointed with their service. The quality of what used >> > to be the worldwide reliable chat client is not good enough. Please, >> > pass this on to whoever works for them. I believe some Skype >> > developers may watch the list and thus, I wanted to make this clear, >> > this is heavily unsatisfying. >> > >> > Mostafa >> > >> > -- >> > (Seeking knowledge is compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a >> > shoreless ocean.) >> > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. >> > >> > to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account >> > email >> > [email protected] >> > >> > To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to >> > http://www.dlee.org/skype >> > >> > >> > To contact the list owner send a message to >> > mailto:[email protected] >> > >> > and for a searchable archives page go here. >> > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > to modify yoru subscription visit the list info link at the bottom of >> > this >> > email, or click the link in the email you receive with your list >> > password >> > each month. >> > thanks and have a wonderful day. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skypeenglish mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 3 >> > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 10:43:58 -0800 >> > From: Sarah Alawami via Skypeenglish >> > <[email protected]> >> > To: Skype English list <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype for windows >> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> > >> > I also never have heard of this. I would uninstall skype and FF, scan >> > the >> > computer with avast or what ever you use, reinstall skype, sign in, >> > reinstall firefox, and see if that goes away. >> > >> > If you have any complaints contact skype through the contact form they >> > have >> > on their page. I would use the forums but they have become inaccessible >> > for >> > mac and windows on a;; browsers and nvda. >> >> On Feb 10, 2017, at 7:32 AM, ken lawrence via Skypeenglish >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> this doesn't seem to be a problem with firefox or skype never heard of >> >> something like this. but I think you had better understand something >> >> absolutely your not going to like this but I think everyone on this >> >> list >> >> will tell you the same. developers don't owe you or anyone else here >> >> on >> >> this list one thing. skype is still a very good and very reliable >> >> product >> >> I participated in a game on skype the other day with only one major >> >> issue >> >> and that was a a strange stuttering issue in the audio. I'm pretty >> >> sure >> >> it was weather related. not sure why you signed out I have my skype >> >> set >> >> to sign me in automaticly when skype starts. also have it set to >> >> start >> >> automaticly when windows starts. you might before complaining about >> >> how >> >> rotten skype is to developers work on troubleshoting a problem. did >> >> you >> >> scan for viruses/malware? what windows version are you using and a >> >> few >> >> other things like that to consider. but don't blame developers for >> >> every >> >> little issue. the developers of programs o >> > r websites don't owe any of us anything just because we are blind. >> > that's >> > not something you may like to or even want to hear, but it's a fact. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Mostafa Almahdy via Skypeenglish >> >> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 4:32 AM >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: [Skypeenglish] Skype for windows >> >> >> >> I use Skype for windows, the latest of course. However, I took my >> >> laptop to work couple of days ago and signed out from Skype to not >> >> receive alerts or that I may forgotten to set it on do not disturb. >> >> Anyway, I went to sign back in and it gave me the following message. >> >> Cookies must be allowed. I figured on my default browser, which is >> >> firefox how to change that and I enabled cookies. Well, the same >> >> message is still being spoken even after uninstalling both twice, >> >> Skype and firefox. I even removed all Skype data from the C. Still, >> >> that hasn't fixed the problem. It insists to remember my Skype name, >> >> and the password field is not even shown because it is remembered >> >> despite two attempts to remove all Skype related information. Most >> >> absurdly, though, I even attempted to create new account and well, the >> >> process is never finished because the service is temporarily >> >> unavailable. That's the message I get when I am almost done. This is >> >> frustrating indeed and I'd like to notify Skype developers, that I am >> >> extremely disappointed with their service. The quality of what used >> >> to be the worldwide reliable chat client is not good enough. Please, >> >> pass this on to whoever works for them. I believe some Skype >> >> developers may watch the list and thus, I wanted to make this clear, >> >> this is heavily unsatisfying. >> >> >> >> Mostafa >> >> >> >> -- >> >> (Seeking knowledge is compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a >> >> shoreless ocean.) >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. >> >> >> >> to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account >> >> email >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to >> >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> >> >> >> >> >> To contact the list owner send a message to >> >> mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> >> and for a searchable archives page go here. >> >> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> to modify yoru subscription visit the list info link at the bottom of >> >> this >> >> email, or click the link in the email you receive with your list >> >> password >> >> each month. >> >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. >> >> >> >> to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account >> >> email >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to >> >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> >> >> >> >> >> To contact the list owner send a message to >> >> mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> >> and for a searchable archives page go here. >> >> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> to modify yoru subscription visit the list info link at the bottom of >> >> this >> >> email, or click the link in the email you receive with your list >> >> password >> >> each month. >> >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 4 >> > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 13:59:49 -0500 >> > From: Hope Paulos via Skypeenglish >> > <[email protected]> >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: [Skypeenglish] Office 365 Skype for business for Mac >> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> > >> > Hi all. My work will be switching to office 365 Skype for business for >> > Mac, >> > for instant messaging purposes. Has anybody had any experience with >> > this? >> > How accessible is this with voiceover? >> > Any information people can provide would be greatly appreciated. >> > >> > >> > Hope Paulos >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 5 >> > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 15:29:48 -0500 >> > From: Mike DeZinno via Skypeenglish >> > <[email protected]> >> > To: "screen readers' access to skype and its interface." >> > <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype for windows >> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" >> > >> > Amen Ken! >> > Skype gives their product away for free to the entire world and has for >> > years on the hope that some day they will find some way to be repaid >> > that >> > won't have to come from it's free subscribers. >> > >> > As a fellow blind person I'm just glad that they created something that >> > most of the time we can use that works at all! >> > >> > Next month will be 30 years since I first got involved with screen >> > reading >> > tech and computers that are blind accessible. >> > If you think it's frustrating now you should have been around 30, 25, >> > or >> > even 20 years ago when they were telling the blind community that DOS >> > was >> > the best we would ever get and Windows would never be accessible for >> > the >> > blind! LOL >> > Oh, not to mention anything and everything in those days had to be >> > bought >> > and paid for, even the things that didn't work at all you bought at >> > your >> > own risk no one gave any guarantees,and no such thing as a 30 day free >> > trial! LOL >> > >> > As a community we need to have a greater attitude of gratitude, and >> > just >> > not be so hair triggered to start finger pointing at developers that >> > disappoint us when using their free stuff. LOL >> > >> > That's why we are all here now to help each other cover the ground in >> > the >> > middle that the sighted world doesn't even know exists or for sure >> > never >> > gives it much thought during their day while they are trying to carve >> > out >> > their own way to survive. >> > >> > I'm very grateful to all of you in our little blind Skype community who >> > helped me several years ago get my Skype feet wet. I have had much >> > success >> > >> > working with it and have been able to do things that I once was told by >> > well meaning sighted people would be impossible for the blind to ever >> > do. >> > >> > Love to all of you for what you do for all of us, and a very special >> > thanks >> > >> > to Mr. Doug Lee. >> > >> > For ever grateful, >> > Mike >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > At 10:32 AM 2/10/2017, you wrote: >> >>this doesn't seem to be a problem with firefox or skype never heard of >> >>something like this. but I think you had better understand something >> >>absolutely your not going to like this but I think everyone on this >> >> list >> >>will tell you the same. developers don't owe you or anyone else here >> >> on >> >>this list one thing. skype is still a very good and very reliable >> >> product >> >> >> >>I participated in a game on skype the other day with only one major >> >> issue >> >>and that was a a strange stuttering issue in the audio. I'm pretty >> >> sure >> >>it was weather related. not sure why you signed out I have my skype >> >> set >> >>to sign me in automaticly when skype starts. also have it set to start >> >>automaticly when windows starts. you might before complaining about >> >> how >> >>rotten skype is to developers work on troubleshoting a problem. did >> >> you >> >>scan for viruses/malware? what windows version are you using and a few >> >>other things like that to consider. but don't blame developers for >> >> every >> >>little issue. the developers of programs or websites don't owe any of >> >> us >> >>anything just because we are blind. that's not something you may like >> >> to >> >>or even want to hear, but it's a fact. >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- From: Mostafa Almahdy via Skypeenglish >> >>Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 4:32 AM >> >>To: [email protected] >> >>Subject: [Skypeenglish] Skype for windows >> >> >> >>I use Skype for windows, the latest of course. However, I took my >> >>laptop to work couple of days ago and signed out from Skype to not >> >>receive alerts or that I may forgotten to set it on do not disturb. >> >>Anyway, I went to sign back in and it gave me the following message. >> >>Cookies must be allowed. I figured on my default browser, which is >> >>firefox how to change that and I enabled cookies. Well, the same >> >>message is still being spoken even after uninstalling both twice, >> >>Skype and firefox. I even removed all Skype data from the C. Still, >> >>that hasn't fixed the problem. It insists to remember my Skype name, >> >>and the password field is not even shown because it is remembered >> >>despite two attempts to remove all Skype related information. Most >> >>absurdly, though, I even attempted to create new account and well, the >> >>process is never finished because the service is temporarily >> >>unavailable. That's the message I get when I am almost done. This is >> >>frustrating indeed and I'd like to notify Skype developers, that I am >> >>extremely disappointed with their service. The quality of what used >> >>to be the worldwide reliable chat client is not good enough. Please, >> >>pass this on to whoever works for them. I believe some Skype >> >>developers may watch the list and thus, I wanted to make this clear, >> >>this is heavily unsatisfying. >> >> >> >>Mostafa >> >> >> >>-- >> >>(Seeking knowledge is compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a >> >>shoreless ocean.) >> >>Thanks for posting to the skype english list. >> >> >> >>to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account >> >> email >> >>[email protected] >> >> >> >>To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to >> >>http://www.dlee.org/skype >> >> >> >> >> >>To contact the list owner send a message to >> >>mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> >>and for a searchable archives page go here. >> >>https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >>to modify yoru subscription visit the list info link at the bottom of >> >> this >> >> >> >>email, or click the link in the email you receive with your list >> >> password >> >> >> >>each month. >> >>thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >> >>Skypeenglish mailing list >> >>[email protected] >> >>http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com >> >>Thanks for posting to the skype english list. >> >> >> >>to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account >> >> email >> >>[email protected] >> >> >> >>To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to >> >>http://www.dlee.org/skype >> >> >> >> >> >>To contact the list owner send a message to >> >>mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> >>and for a searchable archives page go here. >> >>https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >>to modify yoru subscription visit the list info link at the bottom of >> >> this >> >> >> >>email, or click the link in the email you receive with your list >> >> password >> >> >> >>each month. >> >>thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >> >>Skypeenglish mailing list >> >>[email protected] >> >>http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com >> > -------------- next part -------------- >> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> > URL: >> > >> <http://lists.tffppodcast.com/pipermail/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com/attachments/20170210/70ca8eb5/attachment.htm> >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Subject: Digest Footer >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skypeenglish mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > End of Skypeenglish Digest, Vol 38, Issue 13 >> > ******************************************** >> > >> >> >>-- >>(Seeking knowledge is compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a >>shoreless ocean.) >>Thanks for posting to the skype english list. >> >>to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email >>[email protected] >> >>To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to >>http://www.dlee.org/skype >> >> >>To contact the list owner send a message to >>mailto:[email protected] >> >>and for a searchable archives page go here. >>https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>to modify yoru subscription visit the list info link at the bottom of this >> >>email, or click the link in the email you receive with your list password >> >>each month. >>thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Skypeenglish mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.tffppodcast.com/pipermail/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com/attachments/20170211/e4544a71/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Skypeenglish Digest, Vol 38, Issue 18 > ******************************************** > -- (Seeking knowledge is compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a shoreless ocean.) 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