Hi Joern,

On 24/04/2010 1:55 AM, Joern Huxhorn wrote:
Hi Ceki,

On 23.04.2010, at 16:18, Ceki Gülcü <[email protected]> wrote:

On 23/04/2010 2:14 PM, Joern Huxhorn wrote:
Didn't you change LocationAwareLogger and doesn't that mean that it's
not compatible with the current Logback anymore?
Or is this only relevant for wrappers like jcl-over-slf4j and you
changed all of them already?


Right, LocationAwareLogger affects compatibility with logback but so
does MessageFormatter changes, actually the latter in a deeper way as
it is no longer possible to compute the formatted message lazily in
LoggingEvent. I must be computed eagerly in LoggingEvent's constructor.


Are you aware that my ParameterizedMessage supports both #70 and lazy
initialization?

Yes, but ParameterizedMessage has to be passed as a Message to a logger of type org.slf4j.n.Logger. More below.

This is possible since the placeholders are only counted during
creation. The actual formatting/placeholder replacement is only
performed when the formatted message is requested. The formatted message
is kept so it won't be regenerated in case of further calls.
It could also be enhanced to perform the toString of the arguments at a
later time. The Message interface could be extended by an
prepareForDeferredProcessing() method for that purpose.

I agree with Ralph that this would be a good time to extend the Logger
interface with Message-aware methods since 1.6 will be incompatible anyway.

Initially, I also thought that 1.6.0 was a good time to integrate your
changes.

Changing the Logger interface breaks compatibility with client code
using SLF4J. Breaking compatibility at this level is different than
breaking compatibility within SLF4J internals. For example, as long as
the end-user places slf4j-api-1.6.0.jar and an appropriate 1.6.0
binding on the class path, things will work fine without needing to
compile client code or dependencies. However, if the logger interface
was changed, then *all* client code (including all dependencies using
SLF4J) would need to be recompiled. There is no comparison in the
impact of changing SLF4J internals and changing client-facing
interfaces such as org.slf4j.Logger.

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Ceki
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