Agreed. (Hard to tell if you're positive or negative to TLP :) ).

Moving Slide to TLP is quite heavily to help with the Jakarta
community future and myself :) [well, technically the PMC and
oversight rather than me].

Importantly I think it is only a minor change for Slide itself.

Hen

On 12/13/05, Ray Sprinkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As a user and someone who occassional submits bug reports and patches, I 
> don't see any difference to being a TLP.  When I went looking for a content 
> manager 3 years ago, I found slide using google and browsing the Apache site. 
>  I can't imagine choosing a CM without a lot of research and the difference 
> in visibility between Jakarta and TLP is miniscule.  For myself, I have been 
> trying to figure out how to contribute the limited amount of time I have 
> right now towards getting the project moving again and I would much rather 
> this time went towards fixes and features than administrative tasks.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:09 PM
> To: Slide Developers Mailing List
> Subject: Re: TLP... :)
>
> Effectively you're saying "we're too inactive to be a TLP". Which is what a 
> lot of us are saying, and makes sense. As the more active subprojects have 
> gone TLP so Jakarta has evolved this way.
>
> There's an unspoken assumption that it's better to have low activity as a 
> Jakarta subproject than it is as a TLP, the Jakarta community as a whole 
> helps make up for things. This is where we're now wrong I think, the Jakarta 
> community is increasingly a disjoint set of subgroups, which again makes 
> sense as the active subprojects contained a lot of the crossover activity. As 
> we're increasingly disjoint, we're not able to make up for things and the 
> idea of being in Jakarta actually becomes a disadvantage not an advantage 
> because things are more hidden.
>
> An obvious solution is to create more of a Jakarta community, which I think 
> Commons can provide, but Slide (and some others) don't fit with this.
>
> So I think TLP for Slide makes sense. Activity is an important question to 
> get somewhat solved on the way, someone needs to be the chair (which isn't a 
> huge job for a tight and focused TLP), but other than that Slide could be 
> doing much the same it is doing now as a TLP and the increased visibility 
> might help get more interest.
>
> SVN restructuring is definitely perpendicular to a TLP move, unless you think 
> you'll be creating a subcomponent that doesn't make sense in a Slide TLP and 
> ought to go elsewhere. Even then it's not a biggy, we can take care of it 
> later.
>
> Hen
>
> On 12/13/05, Daniel Florey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As far as I can tell there is not much developer activity in the Slide
> > project at the moment. As Oliver resigned as release manager there is
> > nobody pushing the 2.2 release.
> > The SVN should be restructured as once discussed. I don't know if I'll
> > personally find the time to work on the project and do things that I
> > have in mind for a long time.
> > Before thinking about moving Slide to TLP we should sort these things out.
> > But in general I think it's still a good idea.
> > Cheers,
> > Daniel
> >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > rg] Im Auftrag von Henri Yandell
> > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. Dezember 2005 00:41
> > > An: Slide Developers Mailing List
> > > Betreff: TLP... :)
> > >
> > > A fair while back, the plan was for Slide to move to TLP. Where is
> > > that nowadays? What reasons are there for it being bad to go ahead
> > > and push on with that?
> > >
> > > Hen
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