On 14 Nov 2003, at 17:07, Daniel Florey wrote:
Hi,
as slide seems to gain more and more interest over the last weeks I'd like to
add some comments to this issue.
appreciated.
Our company has implemented a full featured CMS in the past few years that
works with a self implemented content repository. Beside the repository we
implemented a presentation layer (with some kind of 'inverted caching' as
Stefano calls it) that generates web pages on the fly, a workflow engine and
event handling to enable distributed updates of the presentation caches and
the clients and other things required by a CMS.
Welcome to the club! :-) It seems like everybody and their sisters did that.
As the numbers of CMS available is growing it is hard to stay in business with
a non open source cms. So we decided to drop parts of our own server
development and started to support slide.
Yep.
bad marketing -------------
I believe Slide has currently a major bug in its own self-marketing: no
matter how you look at it, Slide is *NOT* a content management system.
Probably Remy (or Yassaf/Keith/Ismael don't know who came up with this)
didn't know what a content management system was, but one thing is for
sure: Slide is a content repository not a content management system.
A CMS includes things like content authoring, content auditing,
workflow management, presentation logic, *and* content repositories.
The repository is only a (critical! important! vital!) piece of the CMS
puzzle, but it's foolish to consider a content repository enough to
implement a serious CMS.
This is true for the current stage of development but we hope to get this
features in the future. We will port our process engine (for rendering and
workflow management) to slide and are going to donate it to the slide project
if the public likes it.
So I think it should still remain under the flag of CMS.
I humbly yet strongly disagree. Both presentation logic and workflow management are things that are almost impossible to standardize. Those who tried failed rather miserably in the market.
All commercial CMS vendors and the major open source CMSs (Zope, for example), are moving away from a CMS toward a CMF (content management framework), a toolkit where the frontend/repository/backend stages are clearly separate (and interoperable!) and the various pieces can be changed independently.
I think it would be silly for slide to do the exact opposite.
-- Stefano.
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