Ah, I see.. Yeah, that is another need I have. I am serving an Internet
Ministry for a local church and we have 2 needs: CMS for the public web
and doc mgmt for backoffice needs. The former is what I talked about
before. I haven't looked at Lenya, but I did look at the project that
Apache now calls Lenya, "Wyona". IIRC, I passed on it as it required too
much XML knowledge for the end user to use properly and I hit too many
bugs too early. 

As to the doc mgmt, it depends on your client platform(s) I guess. We
are a mixed Mac/PC shop with Linux servers, so we can't look at
something like Microsoft SharePoint. If you all MS and can consider
either that or Visual Source Safe, you may have something. We may just
do something simple like file shares and a web read-only interface for
external/home access over HTTPS. You are in a corporate env I'm
assuming, but for a non-profit company, daily backups and restores may
be enough to restore someone's doc anyway. Most people like to work on
their local machine/laptop and sync to a central repository when they
are ready. If that sync fails or gets corrupted, a restore plan from
media may be fine for us in the short term. I have a friend that talked
about SAN-like hardware appliances that had a filesystem that
auto-versioned, which would be the best thing. That way, you can get
automatic restoration of a file from the file system itself rather than
through the app. 

It seems like Slide would solve your doc mgmt solution, you'd just have
to write some doc browsing interface for your portal to Slide?! Or, are
you wanting workflow around the docs as well? I've used Slide for DAV
and auto versioning without a problem from MS Webfolders and there was a
post in the past on setting up Slide to work properly from Office so
people can edit and save via DAV. Anything missing here? Not sure of all
of your requirements.. 

James

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dariush Behboudi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:24 AM
> To: Slide Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Simple question
> 
> 
> Hi James,
> as CMS system did you ever tried the apache one, lenya?
> I'm starting to try it right now....
> My real need now is not a CMS, but a web based document 
> management platform, where people can publish documents (such 
> as pdf, docs and so on), keep versioning and give permissions 
> on them. OpenCms can do that, but It was born to create 
> sites, not to publish and manage documents, and in my 
> opinions it's too far from a standard.... I'd prefer a webdav 
> compliant platform, to be accesses directly also with ms web 
> folders... I'm searching for a DocMS to integrate into a 
> portal system developed on uPortal or jetspeed. I know that 
> on jetspeed there's and implementation based on slide, but 
> it's too instable and under construction for my needs.
> 
> Regards, Dariush.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Higginbotham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Slide Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 4:42 PM
> Subject: RE: Simple question
> 
> 
> Exactly where I am at as well.. It started building on top of 
> Slide and found that Slide is great for a precanned WebDAV 
> solution, but is not architected properly to yield a high 
> return for custom CMS development. I've emailed a suggested 
> architecture if Slide wanted to solve this problem and 
> received good feedback. I don't have the time to act on it 
> yet, so I've opted to stop dev on it right now. I even 
> checked with Dr. Nevermann about Tamino, but their product 
> doesn't really provide a web-based client. I'm currently 
> evaluating openCMS and Redhat's CMS 
> (http://www.redhat.com/software/rhea/cms/). I did my research 
> 6 months ago and opted out of either of these solutions (and 
> many, many others) but since openCMS has released a newer 5.0 
> with lots of cleanup, I am going to take a look again. A true 
> CMS solution is very hard to do, and thus most OSS projects 
> don't want to take on all that it requires. Thus, it's a 
> barren market out there for a full-featured, true CMS that is 
> also open source. Its either lots of $$$ or free and limiting.
> 
> James
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Holz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 7:50 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Simple question
> >
> >
> > "Dariush Behboudi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Thanks for info,
> > > don't you know any Zope similar solution written in java? I'm 
> > > looking at openCms.org, but there aren't many external 
> modules, such 
> > > as news, mail, calendar and so on... Dariush.
> >
> > When I looked into cms market two years ago, there where
> > lots of halfbacked or specialized solution, but none, that really 
> > convinced me. Maybe some got mature, but I don't know.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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