Personally, I like the WebDav layer ontop of JSR170.  I still feel that
Slide should expose jsr170 as one of its stores, so that it can have
relevance in the long term.  I can understand using webdav to access the
content from the client, but to build out a web based management console
ontop of the repository, I do not want a proprietary api ( aka slides ), I
would prefer a standard.  At that is where I see 170 being important.

jeff 

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos Villegas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:39 AM
To: Slide Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: Slide and JSR170

kranga wrote:
> I don't think jsr 170 forms a logical stack for Slide - who's primary 
> concern is WebDAV protocol implementation. I am very skeptical of jsr 
> 170 - more so after looking at participants - Fujitsu, IBM, BEA, Sun, 
> HP, Borland aren't exactly companies I think of when considering 
> content management systems. I think this is another example of the 
> jcp's callous disregard for what already exists. Webdav, Delta V, ACL, 
> WebDAV-search etc. already exist as standards in a language neutral 
> way. Instead of specifying a java API that basically uses java native 
> method calls in lieu of http, they've created a whole parallel spec set.
What a waste ...

Well, I don't think we're talking about the same things here. Just because
there's SQL, it doesn't mean we don't need JDBC. They are two different
things, WebDAV is a protocol with an underlying model, as you say language
neutral. But to work with it from within a language like java we need an
API. Or else how do you communicate with a WebDAV server from Java. That's
why there's slide-webdavclient, or the slide internal server API. That
jsr170 parallels some of the concepts of WebDAV and related tools is only
natural but it's not a replacement, you can use jsr170 as the java webdav
client API or you can put WebDAV on top of a jsr170 repository server to
expose it remotely. I see it as the same difference as LDAP/JNDI or SQL/JDBC
or XML/SAX/DOM etc.

Carlos

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