This should be discussed at the webdav mailinglist directly as it is of 
interest for all other WebDAV-server vendors.
I'd encourage everyone to join the w3c-dist-auth at w3.org mailing list.
Cheers,
Daniel

"Slide Users Mailing List" <[email protected]> schrieb am 13.01.05 
04:02:17:
> 
> This is ok, but the issue is that when checking the ACL for a user 
> belonging to several groups, the first one that explicitly grants/denies 
> access is the one that takes effect. This sounds right but sometimes is 
> not what you expect. For example, you have an admin group that you've 
> given full access to a top directory, then in some subdirectory you 
> denied access to another group. If you have a user that belongs to both 
> groups it will be denied access to the given subdirectory even if he 
> belongs to the admin group because the inherited ACEs come last in the 
> ACL. Of course, you can explicity grant access to the admin group in the 
> subdirectory's ACL, but it kind of defeats the purpose of inherited 
> ACLs. Reading the spec it looks like this is the way that it has to be, 
> but it doesn't sound logical in situations like the above.
> A way to implement this other behaviour, is to evaluate the whole ACL 
> for each group a user belongs to separately and then choose the one that 
> gives higher access. Resolving group strength at the time each ACE is 
> evaluated will not work because, as Nick explains, an ACE may say 
> nothing about a particular group but that doesn't mean that for that 
> group at this point, access has been granted or denied.
> 
> Carlos
> 
> Michael Smith wrote:
> > Nick Longinow wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi
> >> If a resource (document) in Slide has an ACL with multiple entries for 
> >> the
> >> same principal, the spec (as I recall it) says that the lesser 
> >> permission is
> >> applied to requests. ie, if user has read-only access as a member of one
> >> group, and read-write as a member of another group, both of which are 
> >> named
> >> in the resource's ACL, then the user is given only the lesser 
> >> (read-only).
> >>
> >> Is there a way to modify this behaviour, ie, such that either the 
> >> first or
> >> last permission is applied ?  Ideas ?
> >> Nick
> >>
> > 
> > Nick,
> > 
> > Your understanding of how this works isn't quite right. The ACL spec 
> > doesn't say anything about the relative 'strengths' of rights, the only 
> > thing that matters is the order within the ACL.
> > 
> > The way it works is this:
> >   1) you want to figure out if a user can perform some action (for 
> > example: writing to resource X)
> >   2) You look at each ACE on resource X _in order_. The order of 
> > evaluation is: direct permissions on the resource (in their explicit 
> > ordering within the ACL), then inherited permissions from the parent, 
> > then inherited permissions from the grandparent, etc.
> >   3) If this permission allows you to perform the appropriate action, 
> > then the access control checks pass. Don't look at the rest of the ACEs
> >   4) If this permission _denies_ the appropriate permission, the access 
> > control check fails. Don't look at the rest of the ACEs.
> >   5) If this permission does neither, continue to the next ACE. This is 
> > common - a 'read' permission, for example, doesn't allow writes, but 
> > doesn't deny them either.
> > 
> > So the default behaviour (I think you can plug in alternative 
> > implementations, by the way, to answer your original question - but that 
> > would likely make it incompatible with the ACL spec) will be that, in 
> > your example, things 'just work'. However, this depends on exactly how 
> > you've set up your permissions.
> > 
> > Specifically, you said "user has read-only access as a member of one 
> > group". There are two ways you could set that up. One would be to say 
> > "this group has read access" (and say nothing at all about write 
> > access!), the other would be to say "this group has read access AND this 
> > group explicitly does not have write access", using two ACEs (a grant 
> > and a deny). This latter form would not do what you want, so you should 
> > avoid it.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
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