Hi Juanjo,

Juan José Vázquez Delgado schrieb:
"Glad to hear from you ;-)"

Thanks, i hope to be more active in the future (too much work until now
...:-( ).

Cool ;-)


"I agree, that this should be simplified. We have been thinking of a
packaging descriptor from which we may simply build any packagings. But we
didn't come to any good solution yet."

Agreed. My feeling is that it´s easy for beginners to start with sling
but not so much when you want to build an enterprise platform with 3rd party
software. In this sense, [1] could be an interesting try to have the best of
content-driven applications and SOA togueter.

"
* JcrInstall (or JcrBundlesInstall)
 * FileInstall from Apache Felix
 * Apache Felix WebConsole
 * Apache Felix Command Console
 * OSGi Bundle Repository (usable with both Web and Command Console)"

Interesting. BTW, How can I use Apache Felix Command Console with a
launched sling webapp instance?

There are multiple options: One is the simple telnet-based console provided by Dieter Wimberger (awaiting IP Clearance before integration into Apache Felix, FELIX-615). Another is the Apache Felix console.tui, which just reads from stdin of the launched OSGi framework instance. And finally there is a patch waiting to be committed to the Felix Web Console, which would enable using the command console using the browser (FELIX-563).

The first and last items in this list are currently pending action in my work-queue :-(

Hope this helps.

Regards
Felix


BR,

Juanjo.

[1]
http://servicemix.apache.org/SMX4KNL/running-apache-sling-on-servicemix-kernel.html

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Felix Meschberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

Hi Juanjo,

Glad to hear from you ;-)

Juan José Vázquez Delgado schrieb:

Thanks Bertrand,

Yeap, agreed with you this is the easiest way. In fact, has been my first
try. Although, IMHO Sling should let users add bundles on startup without
any code or additonal maven projects.

WDYT?

IMHO the launchpad jar files are convenience to fire up a running Sling
instance either as a standalone or a web application. As such they are
prepackaged with what we think is it.

It should be fairly easy using the launchpad/base module (which is the
actually launcher code) to create a maven project which packages the bundle
you need together with the launcher code. See the launchpad app, jcrapp (app
module just containing Jackrabbit server stuff to run a Jackrabbit
Repository as a server) and webapp modules as examples

I agree, that this should be simplified. We have been thinking of a
packaging descriptor from which we may simply build any packagings. But we
didn't come to any good solution yet.

Any ideas or even code are of course welcome in this area as they simplify
the building Sling applications.

But keep in mind, launching is just the first step in the lifetime of an
application. The next steps are -- besides running and using it -- updating
it and for this task exist various options, which IMHO might even be used
for installation:

 * JcrInstall (or JcrBundlesInstall)
 * FileInstall from Apache Felix
 * Apache Felix WebConsole
 * Apache Felix Command Console
 * OSGi Bundle Repository (usable with both Web and Command Console)
 * ....

Further there the OSGi Deployment Admin specification, we are also
considerung using in Sling: We might create Deployment Packages of the
various modules of Sling to install (and update) them in any OSGi framework
with a running Deployment Admin Service. This should also simplify the
creation of Sling Launchers.

Hope this helps.

Regards
Felix




BR,

Juanjo.

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Hi,
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Juanjo Vázquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

...* Launch the platform running a launchpad webapp instance.
* Preserve the genuine Sling launchpad webapp without modifications

(except

improvements, of course).
* Include the additional bundles on startup.
* Not include specific sling bundles on startup (i.e. include
org.apache.sling.jcr.jackrabbit.client instead of
org.apache.sling.jcr.jackrabbit.server).
* Use the local maven repository as OBR....

The easiest by far seems to create your own pom.xml based on the
launchpad/webapp pom, and add/remove bundle dependencies as needed to
create a custom webapp with the bundles that you need.

You won't lose anything, as the launchpad webapp has no specific code
(apart from the integration tests, but we're planning to move those to
their own test-only module), it's just an assembly of bundles. The
actual launcher code is in launchpad/base.

HTH,
-Bertrand




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